IS HE GUILTY?

rob faux Wrote:

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> No Jack ,not the movies.................the real
> stats are that >50% of women murdered in SA are
> murdered by their partners.........those sadly are
> the facts!


YOU HAVE YOUR FACTS COMPLETELY WRONG
Hear is an extract on complaint lodge about this false reports
read full complaint here
Over 600 women murdered by black men versus 60 murdered by partners over same period

he entire argument that “White women in South Africa have a better chance of being murdered by their husband, boyfriend or lover” is based on estimates? As for the information being confidential, this is NOT true for studies based on cases of criminal activity, as these cases are a matter of public record.
We did our own research on the subject and could find records of only 49 cases of Intimate Femicide in South Africa committed by white males over the past 20 years. We concede that we most probably don’t have knowledge of 100% of the cases but even if these cases were multiplied by 20, the figures come nowhere near the average of 52 cases per annum as “assumed” by the MRC. These cases received ample media attention and are well documented.
Herewith a list of the names of the white South African Women murdered by their husbands, boyfriends or lovers from 1993 to the present date that we could find records of:

01/1996 – Martie Prinsloo shot by Paul Loots (Girlfriend)
01/1997 – Johanna de Villiers murdered by Frederick (Fiance)
10/1997 - Sonia Schwarz murdered by Dave Schwarz (Wife)
10/1998 - Izaan Engelbrecht shot by Bertus Engelbrecht (Wife)
04/1999 - Louise van Zyl shot by Henk van Zyl (Wife)
02/1999 – Ernestina Stander murdered by Walter Stander (Wife)
04/1999 – Lorraine van der Merwe shot by Daniël van der Merwe (Wife)
05/1999 – Ria Bouwer murdered by Colin Bower (Wife)
11/1999 – Nicolise Wondergem shot by Danie Wondergem (Wife)
02/2000 – Hazel Kinnear shot by Hendrik Slippers (Ex-wife)
04/2001 – Amelia Viljoen murdered by Pieter Viljoen (Wife)
06/2001 – Shirley Spittal shot by Willian Spittel (Wife)
07/2001 – Amanda Lanford shot by Athol Oertel (Ex-wife)
07/2002 – Hanlie Pieters shot by Gerhard Pieters (Wife)
10/2002 – Sibille Zanner murdered by Frank Zanner (Wife)
11/2002 – Gerda Swanepoel shot by Christo Swanepoel (Wife)
03/2004 – Naomi Hanekom shot by Barend Bieldt (Ex-Wife)
06/2004 – Monica Meyer shot by Paul Meyer (Ex-wife)
06/2004 - Rozanne Lamb shot by Paul Meyer (Girlfriend)
03/2005 – Suzie van der Westhuizen murdered by Rudolph van der Westhuizen (Wife)
08/2006 – Sonja Hunter shot by Jacques Hunter (Wife)
02/2007 – Ester Reneke shot by Kobus van Heerden (Girlfriend)
02/2007 – Dina Beukes shot by Dirk Beukes (Wife)
03/2007 – Riekie Riekert shot by Johan Riekerk (Wife)
03/2007 – Jackie van Rooyen shot by Marius van Rooyen (Wife)
05/2007 – Marietta Marx shot by Jannie Marx (Wife)
11/2007 – Yolandi Badenhortst murdered by Martin Badenhorst (Wife)
02/2008 – Marie Botes shot by Hans Roodt (Girlfriend)
06/2008 – Rosemarie Vosloo shot my Johannes Archer (Ex-wife)
10/2009 – Cordelia Prinsloo shot by Cobus Prinsloo (Ex-Wife)
02/2010 – Octavia Kruger shot by Christo Kruger. (Wife)
07/2010 – Monica van Vuuren murdered by Albert van Vuuren (Wife)
08/2010 – Erica Croeser murdered by Morne Croeser (Wife)
02/2011 – Suzelle Pieterse murdered by Andre Pieterse (Wife)
04/2011 – Cornel Theron shot by David Theron. (Wife)
05/2011 – Liesel Badenhorst murdered by Elias Benadito (Girlfriend)
06/2011 – Andrea Venter murdered by Gerhard Jansen van Vuuren (Girlfriend)
08/2011 – Nadia Strydom murdered by Jan Strydom (Wife)
08/2011 – Amanda Spangenberg shot by Gerhard Spangenberg (Wife)
10/2011 – Liezl Bognadovik murdered by Milan Bognadovik. (Wife)
04/2012 – Theony Brits shot by Henkie May (Girlfriend)
11/2012 – Hansie Drent shot by Dirk Drent – (Wife)
01/2013 – Tanya Marais murdered by Eugene Marais. (Wife)
02/2013 – Reeva Steenkamp shot by Oscar Pistorius. (Girlfriend)
04/2013 – Carolyn Frara was murdered by John Frara (Wife)
Murders where men hired killers:
11/1999 – Casper Greeff hired the gardener, Christopher Njeje, to murder his wife, Estelle Greeff.
10/2009 – Cobus Prinsloo hired the gardener, Lucas Moloi, to murder his ex-wife, Cordelia Prinsloo.
Murders where a White male is the prime suspect:
06/2013 – Margaret Kendle (Husband suspected)
08/2012 – Christa Ross (Husband suspected)

In contrast to the 49 cases provided above, over this same period, we were able to confirm more than 600 cases where white South African women were murdered by “unknown” black men.
Attached to the complaint is a list of these confirmed cases. There are many more, but this list is sufficient to prove our case.

It just sounds so rehearsed! Im sorry.........he even got it wrong earlier and Roux had to tell him ....no, not yet, we will come back to that point specifically.......

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> rob faux Wrote:
>

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>

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> > No Jack ,not the movies.................the
> real
> > stats are that >50% of women murdered in SA are
> > murdered by their partners.........those sadly
> are
> > the facts!
>
>
> YOU HAVE YOUR FACTS COMPLETELY WRONG
> Hear is an extract on complaint lodge about this
> false reports
> read full complaint here
> Over 600 women murdered by black men versus 60
> murdered by partners over same period
>
> he entire argument that “White women in South
> Africa have a better chance of being murdered by
> their husband, boyfriend or lover” is based on
> estimates? As for the information being
> confidential, this is NOT true for studies based
> on cases of criminal activity, as these cases are
> a matter of public record.
> We did our own research on the subject and could
> find records of only 49 cases of Intimate Femicide
> in South Africa committed by white males over the
> past 20 years. We concede that we most probably
> don’t have knowledge of 100% of the cases but
> even if these cases were multiplied by 20, the
> figures come nowhere near the average of 52 cases
> per annum as “assumed” by the MRC. These cases
> received ample media attention and are well
> documented.
> Herewith a list of the names of the white South
> African Women murdered by their husbands,
> boyfriends or lovers from 1993 to the present date
> that we could find records of:
>
> 01/1996 – Martie Prinsloo shot by Paul Loots
> (Girlfriend)
> 01/1997 – Johanna de Villiers murdered by
> Frederick (Fiance)
> 10/1997 - Sonia Schwarz murdered by Dave Schwarz
> (Wife)
> 10/1998 - Izaan Engelbrecht shot by Bertus
> Engelbrecht (Wife)
> 04/1999 - Louise van Zyl shot by Henk van Zyl
> (Wife)
> 02/1999 – Ernestina Stander murdered by Walter
> Stander (Wife)
> 04/1999 – Lorraine van der Merwe shot by Daniël
> van der Merwe (Wife)
> 05/1999 – Ria Bouwer murdered by Colin Bower
> (Wife)
> 11/1999 – Nicolise Wondergem shot by Danie
> Wondergem (Wife)
> 02/2000 – Hazel Kinnear shot by Hendrik Slippers
> (Ex-wife)
> 04/2001 – Amelia Viljoen murdered by Pieter
> Viljoen (Wife)
> 06/2001 – Shirley Spittal shot by Willian
> Spittel (Wife)
> 07/2001 – Amanda Lanford shot by Athol Oertel
> (Ex-wife)
> 07/2002 – Hanlie Pieters shot by Gerhard Pieters
> (Wife)
> 10/2002 – Sibille Zanner murdered by Frank
> Zanner (Wife)
> 11/2002 – Gerda Swanepoel shot by Christo
> Swanepoel (Wife)
> 03/2004 – Naomi Hanekom shot by Barend Bieldt
> (Ex-Wife)
> 06/2004 – Monica Meyer shot by Paul Meyer
> (Ex-wife)
> 06/2004 - Rozanne Lamb shot by Paul Meyer
> (Girlfriend)
> 03/2005 – Suzie van der Westhuizen murdered by
> Rudolph van der Westhuizen (Wife)
> 08/2006 – Sonja Hunter shot by Jacques Hunter
> (Wife)
> 02/2007 – Ester Reneke shot by Kobus van Heerden
> (Girlfriend)
> 02/2007 – Dina Beukes shot by Dirk Beukes
> (Wife)
> 03/2007 – Riekie Riekert shot by Johan Riekerk
> (Wife)
> 03/2007 – Jackie van Rooyen shot by Marius van
> Rooyen (Wife)
> 05/2007 – Marietta Marx shot by Jannie Marx
> (Wife)
> 11/2007 – Yolandi Badenhortst murdered by Martin
> Badenhorst (Wife)
> 02/2008 – Marie Botes shot by Hans Roodt
> (Girlfriend)
> 06/2008 – Rosemarie Vosloo shot my Johannes
> Archer (Ex-wife)
> 10/2009 – Cordelia Prinsloo shot by Cobus
> Prinsloo (Ex-Wife)
> 02/2010 – Octavia Kruger shot by Christo Kruger.
> (Wife)
> 07/2010 – Monica van Vuuren murdered by Albert
> van Vuuren (Wife)
> 08/2010 – Erica Croeser murdered by Morne
> Croeser (Wife)
> 02/2011 – Suzelle Pieterse murdered by Andre
> Pieterse (Wife)
> 04/2011 – Cornel Theron shot by David Theron.
> (Wife)
> 05/2011 – Liesel Badenhorst murdered by Elias
> Benadito (Girlfriend)
> 06/2011 – Andrea Venter murdered by Gerhard
> Jansen van Vuuren (Girlfriend)
> 08/2011 – Nadia Strydom murdered by Jan Strydom
> (Wife)
> 08/2011 – Amanda Spangenberg shot by Gerhard
> Spangenberg (Wife)
> 10/2011 – Liezl Bognadovik murdered by Milan
> Bognadovik. (Wife)
> 04/2012 – Theony Brits shot by Henkie May
> (Girlfriend)
> 11/2012 – Hansie Drent shot by Dirk Drent –
> (Wife)
> 01/2013 – Tanya Marais murdered by Eugene
> Marais. (Wife)
> 02/2013 – Reeva Steenkamp shot by Oscar
> Pistorius. (Girlfriend)
> 04/2013 – Carolyn Frara was murdered by John
> Frara (Wife)
> Murders where men hired killers:
> 11/1999 – Casper Greeff hired the gardener,
> Christopher Njeje, to murder his wife, Estelle
> Greeff.
> 10/2009 – Cobus Prinsloo hired the gardener,
> Lucas Moloi, to murder his ex-wife, Cordelia
> Prinsloo.
> Murders where a White male is the prime suspect:
> 06/2013 – Margaret Kendle (Husband suspected)
> 08/2012 – Christa Ross (Husband suspected)
>
> In contrast to the 49 cases provided above, over
> this same period, we were able to confirm more
> than 600 cases where white South African women
> were murdered by “unknown” black men.
> Attached to the complaint is a list of these
> confirmed cases. There are many more, but this
> list is sufficient to prove our case.

2 sets of stats..........take your choice .......................................but either way ,could not be described as "unlikely".

And the cross-examination begins...

And it stalls as it starts...

This gerrie nel is brilliant goes straight for the heart

Nel, do you know the term 'zombie stopper' Pistorius, no.Nel, Can I show you a video to prove that you do, Pistorius, yes. :
The footage, obtained by Sky News in the UK, shows Pistorius shooting apart a whole watermelon balancing at head height next to a target.
A voice thought to be Pistorius’ then remarks: “It’s not as soft as brains but f*** it is a zombie stopper.”

Down for an eight count in round 1

Ou Ryperd Wrote:

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> Nel, do you know the term 'zombie stopper'
> Pistorius, no.Nel, Can I show you a video to prove
> that you do, Pistorius, yes. :
> The footage, obtained by Sky News in the UK, shows
> Pistorius shooting apart a whole watermelon
> balancing at head height next to a target.
> A voice thought to be Pistorius’ then remarks:
> “It’s not as soft as brains but f*** it is a
> zombie stopper.”
>
> Down for an eight count in round 1

I think it was an uppercut that landed on the chin, OP staggering and eight count will begin if video allowed to be played...

Roux will try his utmost to not let the video be shown......

Ou Ryperd Wrote:

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> Nel, do you know the term 'zombie stopper'
> Pistorius, no.Nel, Can I show you a video to prove
> that you do, Pistorius, yes. :
> The footage, obtained by Sky News in the UK, shows
> Pistorius shooting apart a whole watermelon
> balancing at head height next to a target.
> A voice thought to be Pistorius’ then remarks:
> “It’s not as soft as brains but f*** it is a
> zombie stopper.”
>
> Down for an eight count in round 1

what do you think is the relevance to the case?

Nel, a man on a mission.....

Showed pics of Reeva's head wound......that was not called for.....it should not have been shown on live television. I am for lots of things, but for me, that was uncalled for.............too graphic