IS HE GUILTY?

Well if more than half the population has GAD as described and those of us who live in SA are certainly paranoid about security especially at night then does it mean that if they rate him as being not criminally liable for his actions in killing someone, can we all go around doing the same and just walk away?

Saksy Wrote:

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> Nevermind appeal, Nel needs to take OP diminished
> capacity off the table now.
>
> This may or may not work in OP favour. If it is
> ruled that OP had a disorder that affected his
> judgement then it will help him.
>
> Roux had to take a chance on this defence and the
> psychiatrist. He was out of options.


The defense did not wanted him observed as I am sure it will be found that this GAD is not more than your average person living in South Africa - I must admit that I think Mr Roux has run a badly managed case and his experts barring Prof Voster were poor - It seems he and his team found witnesses when they heard the states case and led evidence that seems tailored - Pistorius has now seen that this Judge is following the law by the book so I think he will have big problems and Sterkfontein might be the best option for him to take (if he can get it)as a Jail term is the other option!!

Listening to the panel of legal experts and the actual application , I see Nel is concerned about the mitigation element at sentencing(if applicable) but more so the appeal, particularly if there was a new defense team in place!
Interesting is the divided opinion as to whether this was a mistake by Roux, or brilliant.....I have to say that Roux's own objection was emotional so don't think it was a deliberate tactic to introduce GAD!!

rob faux Wrote:

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> Listening to the panel of legal experts and the
> actual application , I see Nel is concerned about
> the mitigation element at sentencing(if
> applicable) but more so the appeal, particularly
> if there was a new defense team in place!
> Interesting is the divided opinion as to whether
> this was a mistake by Roux, or brilliant.....I
> have to say that Roux's own objection was
> emotional so don't think it was a deliberate
> tactic to introduce GAD!!

I agree as he would not have opposed the application and in fact he should have brought it himself as is the norm - Again I think he bungled as with Dixson and his other experts ... but the truth is always easier to defend than a lie and I think these multiple lies by OP could derail any Advocate

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> rob faux Wrote:
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>

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> > Listening to the panel of legal experts and the
> > actual application , I see Nel is concerned
> about
> > the mitigation element at sentencing(if
> > applicable) but more so the appeal,
> particularly
> > if there was a new defense team in place!
> > Interesting is the divided opinion as to
> whether
> > this was a mistake by Roux, or brilliant.....I
> > have to say that Roux's own objection was
> > emotional so don't think it was a deliberate
> > tactic to introduce GAD!!
>
> I agree as he would not have opposed the
> application and in fact he should have brought it
> himself as is the norm - Again I think he bungled
> as with Dixson and his other experts ... but the
> truth is always easier to defend than a lie and I
> think these multiple lies by OP could derail any
> Advocate

I dont think these proffessionals that sit on a panel just for the sake of it say that someone acted in the fashion that OP did. I think he just has normal anxiety like much of all of us that live in SA. I think Nel knows how difficult it will be for the panel to say he has problem.......therefore i think Nel is brilliant and at the end of the day, the defense wont be able to call on this card if he is found guilty. I also think Roux wanted to use this card he had up his sleeve when and if they needed to appeal.......now he has nothing if OP is found to be of normal mind. Big setback for Roux......thats why he was so emotional yesterday

I find it strange the OP's mother slept with a gun under her pillow but often called the police to investigate -
"She often got scared at night. We didn't live in the best of areas. There was a lot of crime. She would call the police, call us to her room and we would wait for the police to arrive."

Now this person inherits his mother's behavior EXCEPT he lives in an affluent area with minor crime and DOES NOT EVER call the POLICE considering ,by his own admission, the police did arrive. He also does not lock himself in a room for safety but rather bangs off 4 rounds - As that sleuth from Baker street said so famously : "The Game is afoot" and Mr P there will be no hiding from the truth this time. I think he will find the Weskoppies crew will put him under huge pressure and Nel will know he's putting this guy under pressure for a month without having to utter a word!!

Thats hilarious

Pity Dimitri Tsafendas has left us or he could teach these two what a real loon is like!!!

What time is the observation judgment this morning? This is a very interesting twist in this tale

Haupie Wrote:

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> What time is the observation judgment this
> morning? This is a very interesting twist in this
> tale

Done, out patient to be examined at weskoppies Monday to Friday
9am to 4pm

Court resumes 30 june

The state appointed Dr Leon Fine to assess him. Not going to be easy to bullsh*t this guy.

Dr Fine is a Specialist Psychiatrist, with an eclectic approach, utilising mainly Cognitive Behavioural Psychotherapy (CBT), together with the use of Psychotropic medication. He has extensive experience in Medico – legal and Forensic Psychiatry, and in giving evidence in court and providing reports concerning civil and criminal matters. He has passed courses in trauma counselling and selectively uses techniques of Hypnotherapy and eye movement desensitization reprogramming (E.M.D.R). In addition to medical and psychiatric specialist qualifications he holds a BA honours degree in criminology.