IS HE GUILTY?
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11 years 2 months ago
Dammit Im dying to know what the discussion was between Judge and Council
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- rob faux
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11 years 2 months ago
It is often stated by the legal fraternity that even the guilty are entitled to a fair trial and a qualified defence!
Imagine if only the innocent could find a lawyer!!!!!
How qualified the defence, will tend to be an affordability thing!
Imagine if only the innocent could find a lawyer!!!!!
How qualified the defence, will tend to be an affordability thing!
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11 years 2 months ago
If evidence has benn tampered with ie moved across the room then he will get off on a technicality. The law is indeed an ass
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- JAMES BLOND
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11 years 2 months ago
Doublejimmy Wrote:
> Dammit Im dying to know what the discussion was
> between Judge and Council
I heard on the radio that it might have been for future dates as it is clear that the trail will not be finished by Thursday
> Dammit Im dying to know what the discussion was
> between Judge and Council
I heard on the radio that it might have been for future dates as it is clear that the trail will not be finished by Thursday
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- JAMES BLOND
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11 years 2 months ago
Ou Ryperd Wrote:
> All I know is: the most post's on this site is,
> Who are you, 857 with 99507 views
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> Is He Guilty; 675 with 12178 views
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> New record on the cards ?
will be proud to have opened a thread with so many posts, for what is worth :)o
> All I know is: the most post's on this site is,
> Who are you, 857 with 99507 views
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> Is He Guilty; 675 with 12178 views
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> New record on the cards ?

will be proud to have opened a thread with so many posts, for what is worth :)o
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11 years 2 months ago
TNaicker Wrote:
> blueyonder001 Wrote:
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> > GAME OVER OSCAR
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> Not waiting for the judges' scorecards ?? !! There
> have been some shocking decisions when cases have
> gone to the judges...
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> I think we have a 10 count but no-one has ended
> the fight as yet so it is likely going to the
> judges' scoreboard...
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> Question for our esteemed legal eagles among the
> clanners...Why did Barry Roux take this case??...I
> know that OP can source whoever he wants as
> counsel but surely counsel can decide (based on
> what the client communicates to them as to what
> happened) whether to represent a defendant...there
> is no obligation to represent a client...there are
> great disparities between what OP says he said to
> his counsel and what is being revealed in court
> and either OP didn't tell his counsel what he says
> he told them or his counsel have made some serious
> omissions / errors (unlikely, as Nel re-iterates,
> from such esteemed counsel) if he did tell
> them...and maybe the Bar Council will act in these
> omissions / errors...
An advocate can only work with clients that are refereed to him by a lawyer
so OP's lawyer must have refereed him to BR
I do believe that Oldewage also did do some work for PP before it can be that he decide to bring in BR
> blueyonder001 Wrote:
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> > GAME OVER OSCAR
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> Not waiting for the judges' scorecards ?? !! There
> have been some shocking decisions when cases have
> gone to the judges...
>
> I think we have a 10 count but no-one has ended
> the fight as yet so it is likely going to the
> judges' scoreboard...
>
> Question for our esteemed legal eagles among the
> clanners...Why did Barry Roux take this case??...I
> know that OP can source whoever he wants as
> counsel but surely counsel can decide (based on
> what the client communicates to them as to what
> happened) whether to represent a defendant...there
> is no obligation to represent a client...there are
> great disparities between what OP says he said to
> his counsel and what is being revealed in court
> and either OP didn't tell his counsel what he says
> he told them or his counsel have made some serious
> omissions / errors (unlikely, as Nel re-iterates,
> from such esteemed counsel) if he did tell
> them...and maybe the Bar Council will act in these
> omissions / errors...
An advocate can only work with clients that are refereed to him by a lawyer
so OP's lawyer must have refereed him to BR
I do believe that Oldewage also did do some work for PP before it can be that he decide to bring in BR
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Re: Re: IS HE GUILTY?
11 years 2 months ago
Last enquiry for today...how much force and how quickly could OP strike to break door down with cricket bat when, per his evidence, he had a shoulder injury and that is why he slept on different side of bed ??...
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11 years 2 months ago
TNaicker Wrote:
> Last enquiry for today...how much force and how
> quickly could OP strike to break door down with
> cricket bat when, per his evidence, he had a
> shoulder injury and that is why he slept on
> different side of bed ??...
Remember when the adrenaline is pumping you will be amazed at what you can do sometimes, have been in situations like that and afterwards thought wow how did I do it.
when I was boxing once was on the verge of being knocked out but somehow got strength from somewhere and fought back and won the fight
afterwards I did not know where the strength came from
> Last enquiry for today...how much force and how
> quickly could OP strike to break door down with
> cricket bat when, per his evidence, he had a
> shoulder injury and that is why he slept on
> different side of bed ??...
Remember when the adrenaline is pumping you will be amazed at what you can do sometimes, have been in situations like that and afterwards thought wow how did I do it.
when I was boxing once was on the verge of being knocked out but somehow got strength from somewhere and fought back and won the fight
afterwards I did not know where the strength came from

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- davetheflower
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Re: Re: IS HE GUILTY?
11 years 2 months ago
GUILTY YOUR HONOUR..
Mr.Pistorius,your sentence is
25 years for taking that poor girls life..
5 years for having that irritating voice.
5 years for every time you cry like a baby,that's an extra 20 years
5 years for being arrogant and thinking you can outwit the prosecution,Mr.Pistorius you should have kept away from the witness stand.
Mr.Pistorius,your sentence is
25 years for taking that poor girls life..
5 years for having that irritating voice.
5 years for every time you cry like a baby,that's an extra 20 years
5 years for being arrogant and thinking you can outwit the prosecution,Mr.Pistorius you should have kept away from the witness stand.
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11 years 2 months ago
I am still wondering if they did not have a fight about her not closing the door and bringing in the fans as he asked her before he fell a sleep,
taking his fascination with security, it might be that he woke up and saw the open door stripped his moer and they started arguing as she was awake according to him
and according to Nel the question about her denim might support something in that line
taking his fascination with security, it might be that he woke up and saw the open door stripped his moer and they started arguing as she was awake according to him
and according to Nel the question about her denim might support something in that line
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11 years 2 months ago
JAMES BLOND Wrote:
> I am still wondering if they did not have a fight
> about her not closing the door and bringing in the
> fans as he asked her before he fell a sleep,
> taking his fascination with security, it might be
> that he woke up and saw the open door stripped his
> moer and they started arguing as she was awake
> according to him
> and according to Nel the question about her denim
> might support something in that line
His fascination with security is a myth - He had a broken window in his house for a long time, an alarm that he was not sure worked properly and parked his car outside instead of in the garage - He is a tailor of note
> I am still wondering if they did not have a fight
> about her not closing the door and bringing in the
> fans as he asked her before he fell a sleep,
> taking his fascination with security, it might be
> that he woke up and saw the open door stripped his
> moer and they started arguing as she was awake
> according to him
> and according to Nel the question about her denim
> might support something in that line
His fascination with security is a myth - He had a broken window in his house for a long time, an alarm that he was not sure worked properly and parked his car outside instead of in the garage - He is a tailor of note
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- rob faux
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Re: Re: IS HE GUILTY?
11 years 2 months ago
The strange thing is that he is being taken apart on issues that I would think are "unfair" in normal circumstances.
If I was suddenly on the stand for some incident that happened at 3 in the morning( and I wasn't lying) I would point out that a lot of the minute details from the night before are things that none of us would make a note of unless you knew that one day you would have to testify!!!!
I think it is guilt that is tripping him up-he seems to feel the need to have an answer to things most of us couldn't answer the next day , never mind 14 months later.things like "was your partner completely under the duvet? Was she wearing her slops?"
How many of you guys have asked yourself if you could answer a lot of those type questions about your partner,....from last night?
My truthful answer to those type of things would have to be "sorry but I don't really notice those kind of things" .......is that just me?
He also often answers questions with "what I said was"........I think if it's the truth it's what it is and will always be the same...... You wouldn't need to be aligning your answer to what you previously said????
Just my opinion!
If I was suddenly on the stand for some incident that happened at 3 in the morning( and I wasn't lying) I would point out that a lot of the minute details from the night before are things that none of us would make a note of unless you knew that one day you would have to testify!!!!
I think it is guilt that is tripping him up-he seems to feel the need to have an answer to things most of us couldn't answer the next day , never mind 14 months later.things like "was your partner completely under the duvet? Was she wearing her slops?"
How many of you guys have asked yourself if you could answer a lot of those type questions about your partner,....from last night?
My truthful answer to those type of things would have to be "sorry but I don't really notice those kind of things" .......is that just me?
He also often answers questions with "what I said was"........I think if it's the truth it's what it is and will always be the same...... You wouldn't need to be aligning your answer to what you previously said????
Just my opinion!
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