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Seems it happens in other countries as well.................................
BENDEMEER harness racing trainer Robert Clement has been fined $3000 and had his trainer’s licence suspended following an inquiry into his running of the wrong horse at a meeting at Narrabri on March 9.
Harness Racing NSW this week concluded its inquiry into the presentation of Banyula Fella instead of Final Count in race two of the Saturday meeting.
Banyula Fella, which was due to run in race five, won the race but it was later found the horse’s brands did not match those of Final Count.
In his evidence to the inquiry Mr Clement admitted he had mistakenly presented the wrong horse.
He said Banyula Fella had recently entered his stable and was having his first start for him, and that he had arrived late at the track and become distracted during the preparation of Final Count, subsequently gearing up the wrong horse.
The official in charge of the horses’ identification before they enter the track told the inquiry that due to an infestation of burrs around the Narrabri parade ring, which would have affected the sulky tyres, the runners were not required to parade prior to the race, instead going from the stables straight to the track.
Vince Brennan said the runners had progressed simultaneously onto the track and while he had identified other horses, he failed to identify Final Count.
The inquiry concluded it was an accidental breach by Mr Clement, who pleaded guilty to a charge of “a person shall ensure the correct horse is presented to start in a race”.
It accepted both horses raced in similar gear, both were bay in colour, runners did not parade as per requirements and the identification official failed to properly identify Final Count.
As Mr Clement had been issued with a sixmonth conditional trainer/driver licence by the HRNSW board on October 23 last year, stewards suspended his licence until a report is considered by the board. HRNSW will also conduct a review of all horseidentifying procedures currently used by raceclubs.
Ohio State Racing Commission officials said June 11 an investigation into the circumstances behind a race in which the wrong horse competed and finished last as the favorite at River Downs near Cincinnati revealed it was a mistake with no fraudulent intent.
On May 30 in the 13th race, a $5,000 claiming event for fillies and mares, 3-year-olds and up that hadn't won two races lifetime, Sing High Sing Low was listed as number 12 in the program, but it was actually the maiden Mountain Of Light that competed and finished last as the slight betting favorite.
Both 3-year-old fillies were listed as being owned by Billy Hays and trained by Joe Woodard. The Daily Racing Form chart for May 30 reads: "Mountain of Light, racing misidentified as Sing High Sing Low, dueled for the lead from the outside, was used up and stopped in the stretch."
The chart also said Sing High Sing Low (Peaks and Valleys--Songs of Praise, by Palace Music) was "scratched." Mountain of Light (Jules--Solar Annie, by Sejm) was entered in a $5,000 maiden-claiming race the next day at River Downs, and was subsequently scratched.
Luther Heckman, chairman of the racing commission, said June 11 he had spoken with Clifford Nelson, the commission's executive director, about the incident.
"It seems to me Clifford had come to the conclusion that it was an honest error, but there had to be fines," Heckman said. "It was not a fraudulent problem."
Nelson could not be reached immediately for comment, but Steve Zaper, an investigator with the racing commission, said Woodard was fined $500 for leading the wrong horse to the paddock, and was fined another $250 for bringing the wrong horse over on another day at River Downs. (That horse was scratched and didn't race.) Patricia Mularkey, the horse identifier at River Downs, was fined $250.
Woodard was the third-leading trainer at the meet through June 10 with 11 wins. He had the most starts of any trainer with 59.
All parties had 48 hours to appeal, but no appeals were filed. Heckman said because of that, the matter wouldn't come before the full commission.
The commission by policy doesn't reveal details of investigations, but Zaper said: "We look into all other possible angles on something like this."
In the May 30 race, Mountain of Light, racing as Sing High Sing Low, was the 5-2 favorite. The total win, place, and show pool was $37,017. The winner was Kobemon at 5-1, followed by Strawberry Turn in second at 29-1, and Subtle Style, the co-favorite at 5-2, third. The $2 exacta paid $261.40, the $2 trifecta paid $2,350.60, and the $2 superfecta paid $8,371.40.
A claim was lodged for Sing High Sing Low, but the trainer who claimed her discovered he had the wrong horse a few days later, according to individuals who frequent the River Downs barn area. Zaper said the claim was voided.
Meanwhile, Sing High Sing Low was entered again June 10 at River Downs. She finished second in a $5,000 claiming event for non-winners of two races lifetime and was claimed, but not by the same trainer.
Trainer Jamie Ness has been fined $1,000 by the stewards at Presque Isle Downs in Erie, Pa., for entering the wrong horse in a maiden special weight race on July 13, in a case of mistaken identity that could lead to further sanctions in both Pennsylvania and Delaware, where the mix-up was discovered.
Ness entered an unraced 2-year-old named Rome Is Freezing in the Presque Isle Downs race, but the horse he shipped to Presque Isle Downs from Delaware Park was actually an unraced 2-year-old named Rapid Rampage, according to Ness and racing officials. The horse identifier at Presque Isle, Johnny Perez, failed to determine that the horse in the paddock was not the horse that was entered, and the horse went on to finish fourth in the five-horse field, earning $1,250.
Both horses are bay, and though records show that Rome Is Freezing is a gelding and Rapid Rampage is a colt, both horses have been castrated, according to Ness.
Ness said that the two horses were among a batch of 10 2-year-olds he received from Florida earlier this summer. He said that the two may have been placed in each other’s stalls because of their physical similarities. He said the switch was entirely accidental and that he accepted his fine.
“I’m responsible for bringing the wrong horse to the paddock,” Ness said. “After that, it’s unfortunate the horse identifier did not catch it.”
Ness did not travel with the horse. He said his assistant who went to Presque Isle with the horse told him that the identifier at Presque Isle had flipped the horse’s lip in the paddock but did not notice that the lip tattoo was for the wrong horse.
Perez has been suspended by Presque Isle Downs and is facing sanctions from both the track and the Pennsylvania Thoroughbred Racing Commission, according to the commission’s executive secretary, Daniel Tufano.
“I don’t think anyone’s denying the circumstances of what happened,” Tufano said. “You would like to think that there are procedures in place to prevent such an occurrence.”
The mix-up was caught by state veterinarians at Delaware Park on Tuesday after Ness entered Rapid Rampage in a maiden special weight race. The veterinarians discovered then that the horse was actually Rome Is Freezing, leading them back to the July 13 race at Presque Isle Downs. The horse was not allowed to start.
John Wayne, executive director of the Delaware Thoroughbred Racing Commission, said that Ness will need to appear before the Delaware Park stewards to face possible sanctions relating to the mix-up.
“Not to be investigator, judge, and jury at this point in the inquiry, but I’ve already told Mr. Ness that this is a mistake that should not happen,” Wayne said.
One week after the wrong horse started, Ness said that he was relieved that the horse finished fourth in a race without superfecta wagering, since payoffs to bettors were not affected. “It’s the first time in my life I’m glad a horse didn’t run good,” Ness said.
BENDEMEER harness racing trainer Robert Clement has been fined $3000 and had his trainer’s licence suspended following an inquiry into his running of the wrong horse at a meeting at Narrabri on March 9.
Harness Racing NSW this week concluded its inquiry into the presentation of Banyula Fella instead of Final Count in race two of the Saturday meeting.
Banyula Fella, which was due to run in race five, won the race but it was later found the horse’s brands did not match those of Final Count.
In his evidence to the inquiry Mr Clement admitted he had mistakenly presented the wrong horse.
He said Banyula Fella had recently entered his stable and was having his first start for him, and that he had arrived late at the track and become distracted during the preparation of Final Count, subsequently gearing up the wrong horse.
The official in charge of the horses’ identification before they enter the track told the inquiry that due to an infestation of burrs around the Narrabri parade ring, which would have affected the sulky tyres, the runners were not required to parade prior to the race, instead going from the stables straight to the track.
Vince Brennan said the runners had progressed simultaneously onto the track and while he had identified other horses, he failed to identify Final Count.
The inquiry concluded it was an accidental breach by Mr Clement, who pleaded guilty to a charge of “a person shall ensure the correct horse is presented to start in a race”.
It accepted both horses raced in similar gear, both were bay in colour, runners did not parade as per requirements and the identification official failed to properly identify Final Count.
As Mr Clement had been issued with a sixmonth conditional trainer/driver licence by the HRNSW board on October 23 last year, stewards suspended his licence until a report is considered by the board. HRNSW will also conduct a review of all horseidentifying procedures currently used by raceclubs.
Ohio State Racing Commission officials said June 11 an investigation into the circumstances behind a race in which the wrong horse competed and finished last as the favorite at River Downs near Cincinnati revealed it was a mistake with no fraudulent intent.
On May 30 in the 13th race, a $5,000 claiming event for fillies and mares, 3-year-olds and up that hadn't won two races lifetime, Sing High Sing Low was listed as number 12 in the program, but it was actually the maiden Mountain Of Light that competed and finished last as the slight betting favorite.
Both 3-year-old fillies were listed as being owned by Billy Hays and trained by Joe Woodard. The Daily Racing Form chart for May 30 reads: "Mountain of Light, racing misidentified as Sing High Sing Low, dueled for the lead from the outside, was used up and stopped in the stretch."
The chart also said Sing High Sing Low (Peaks and Valleys--Songs of Praise, by Palace Music) was "scratched." Mountain of Light (Jules--Solar Annie, by Sejm) was entered in a $5,000 maiden-claiming race the next day at River Downs, and was subsequently scratched.
Luther Heckman, chairman of the racing commission, said June 11 he had spoken with Clifford Nelson, the commission's executive director, about the incident.
"It seems to me Clifford had come to the conclusion that it was an honest error, but there had to be fines," Heckman said. "It was not a fraudulent problem."
Nelson could not be reached immediately for comment, but Steve Zaper, an investigator with the racing commission, said Woodard was fined $500 for leading the wrong horse to the paddock, and was fined another $250 for bringing the wrong horse over on another day at River Downs. (That horse was scratched and didn't race.) Patricia Mularkey, the horse identifier at River Downs, was fined $250.
Woodard was the third-leading trainer at the meet through June 10 with 11 wins. He had the most starts of any trainer with 59.
All parties had 48 hours to appeal, but no appeals were filed. Heckman said because of that, the matter wouldn't come before the full commission.
The commission by policy doesn't reveal details of investigations, but Zaper said: "We look into all other possible angles on something like this."
In the May 30 race, Mountain of Light, racing as Sing High Sing Low, was the 5-2 favorite. The total win, place, and show pool was $37,017. The winner was Kobemon at 5-1, followed by Strawberry Turn in second at 29-1, and Subtle Style, the co-favorite at 5-2, third. The $2 exacta paid $261.40, the $2 trifecta paid $2,350.60, and the $2 superfecta paid $8,371.40.
A claim was lodged for Sing High Sing Low, but the trainer who claimed her discovered he had the wrong horse a few days later, according to individuals who frequent the River Downs barn area. Zaper said the claim was voided.
Meanwhile, Sing High Sing Low was entered again June 10 at River Downs. She finished second in a $5,000 claiming event for non-winners of two races lifetime and was claimed, but not by the same trainer.
Trainer Jamie Ness has been fined $1,000 by the stewards at Presque Isle Downs in Erie, Pa., for entering the wrong horse in a maiden special weight race on July 13, in a case of mistaken identity that could lead to further sanctions in both Pennsylvania and Delaware, where the mix-up was discovered.
Ness entered an unraced 2-year-old named Rome Is Freezing in the Presque Isle Downs race, but the horse he shipped to Presque Isle Downs from Delaware Park was actually an unraced 2-year-old named Rapid Rampage, according to Ness and racing officials. The horse identifier at Presque Isle, Johnny Perez, failed to determine that the horse in the paddock was not the horse that was entered, and the horse went on to finish fourth in the five-horse field, earning $1,250.
Both horses are bay, and though records show that Rome Is Freezing is a gelding and Rapid Rampage is a colt, both horses have been castrated, according to Ness.
Ness said that the two horses were among a batch of 10 2-year-olds he received from Florida earlier this summer. He said that the two may have been placed in each other’s stalls because of their physical similarities. He said the switch was entirely accidental and that he accepted his fine.
“I’m responsible for bringing the wrong horse to the paddock,” Ness said. “After that, it’s unfortunate the horse identifier did not catch it.”
Ness did not travel with the horse. He said his assistant who went to Presque Isle with the horse told him that the identifier at Presque Isle had flipped the horse’s lip in the paddock but did not notice that the lip tattoo was for the wrong horse.
Perez has been suspended by Presque Isle Downs and is facing sanctions from both the track and the Pennsylvania Thoroughbred Racing Commission, according to the commission’s executive secretary, Daniel Tufano.
“I don’t think anyone’s denying the circumstances of what happened,” Tufano said. “You would like to think that there are procedures in place to prevent such an occurrence.”
The mix-up was caught by state veterinarians at Delaware Park on Tuesday after Ness entered Rapid Rampage in a maiden special weight race. The veterinarians discovered then that the horse was actually Rome Is Freezing, leading them back to the July 13 race at Presque Isle Downs. The horse was not allowed to start.
John Wayne, executive director of the Delaware Thoroughbred Racing Commission, said that Ness will need to appear before the Delaware Park stewards to face possible sanctions relating to the mix-up.
“Not to be investigator, judge, and jury at this point in the inquiry, but I’ve already told Mr. Ness that this is a mistake that should not happen,” Wayne said.
One week after the wrong horse started, Ness said that he was relieved that the horse finished fourth in a race without superfecta wagering, since payoffs to bettors were not affected. “It’s the first time in my life I’m glad a horse didn’t run good,” Ness said.
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Re: Re: Hassen Adams calls it quits...
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Muhtiman Wrote:
> the fantasy Wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Nonsense.In this or any multi-million rand
> > business you don't employ people to make
> > mistakes.Trainer is first and foremost to he
> held
> > accountable .
>
> The racing industry may be a multi-million rand
> industry but people working directly with horses
> locally have very little qualifications other than
> exprience.....
>
> firstly how is a trainer accountable for receiving
> horses from a farm that have been incorrectly
> labled....
>
> ......then have you worked with grooms....did you
> see the interview of the groom of the Summer Cup
> winner....he may be one of the better ones getting
> a top horse to mind and may be good at his job yet
> he cannot string 2 words in English.....so there
> can be communication problems when relaying 15 or
> 16 on a normal race day....trainers are generally
> very hands on..... yet through absence or
> deligation to others with lesser understanding or
> communication problems..... things can go
> wrong.....no diffent from ordering a Castle Lite
> and getting a Castle Lager....:
Muhtiman,I havent personally worked with grooms but I have been to stables where the loading preparation is a finely tuned operation.In this case it was not a case of a groom or stable manager having to load a float of horses.They had to take THREE horses to the course.I might speak under correction but if I am not mistaken both the horses in question come from Mr Adams's stud farm.
> the fantasy Wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Nonsense.In this or any multi-million rand
> > business you don't employ people to make
> > mistakes.Trainer is first and foremost to he
> held
> > accountable .
>
> The racing industry may be a multi-million rand
> industry but people working directly with horses
> locally have very little qualifications other than
> exprience.....
>
> firstly how is a trainer accountable for receiving
> horses from a farm that have been incorrectly
> labled....
>
> ......then have you worked with grooms....did you
> see the interview of the groom of the Summer Cup
> winner....he may be one of the better ones getting
> a top horse to mind and may be good at his job yet
> he cannot string 2 words in English.....so there
> can be communication problems when relaying 15 or
> 16 on a normal race day....trainers are generally
> very hands on..... yet through absence or
> deligation to others with lesser understanding or
> communication problems..... things can go
> wrong.....no diffent from ordering a Castle Lite
> and getting a Castle Lager....:
Muhtiman,I havent personally worked with grooms but I have been to stables where the loading preparation is a finely tuned operation.In this case it was not a case of a groom or stable manager having to load a float of horses.They had to take THREE horses to the course.I might speak under correction but if I am not mistaken both the horses in question come from Mr Adams's stud farm.
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Re: Re: Hassen Adams calls it quits...
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>
> So when is the microchip inserted(at what age)?
> Surely with all his lolly Mr Adams and other big
> owners can buy a scanner(I doubt it could be that
> expensive) to use at stables?
I already took some time to address the problems that may arise if every Tom Dick and Harry had access to a chip scanner......but here goes again......having a chip scanner would enable some Joe to locate the chip.....and remove it .....and replace it with some other chip......pulling off a ringer sting of note.....so it is not a question of how much they cost.....but in who's hands they would fall into.......not only be able to pull off a coup on a race course but sell a live donkey that looks like your turf champion......when you just sent your dead superstar to the lion park.....:
>
>
> So when is the microchip inserted(at what age)?
> Surely with all his lolly Mr Adams and other big
> owners can buy a scanner(I doubt it could be that
> expensive) to use at stables?
I already took some time to address the problems that may arise if every Tom Dick and Harry had access to a chip scanner......but here goes again......having a chip scanner would enable some Joe to locate the chip.....and remove it .....and replace it with some other chip......pulling off a ringer sting of note.....so it is not a question of how much they cost.....but in who's hands they would fall into.......not only be able to pull off a coup on a race course but sell a live donkey that looks like your turf champion......when you just sent your dead superstar to the lion park.....:
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Muhtiman Wrote:
> mr hawaii Wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So when is the microchip inserted(at what age)?
> > Surely with all his lolly Mr Adams and other
> big
> > owners can buy a scanner(I doubt it could be
> that
> > expensive) to use at stables?
>
> I already took some time to address the problems
> that may arise if every Tom Dick and Harry had
> access to a chip scanner......but here goes
> again......having a chip scanner would enable some
> Joe to locate the chip.....and remove it .....and
> replace it with some other chip......pulling off a
> ringer sting of note.....so it is not a question
> of how much they cost.....but in who's hands they
> would fall into.......not only be able to pull off
> a coup on a race course but sell a live donkey
> that looks like your turf champion......when you
> just sent your dead superstar to the lion
> park.....:
but surely any vet has a scanner for dogs and cats - try google and you'll find universal scanners on sale for a few thousand rands so I don't buy that at all - This is not some new technology at all and is available easily unless there is something special about horse chips(which i doubt)
www.homesteadfarmsupplies.co.uk/-c-102.html
here's a link after a one minute google search
and now a link to the USA Jockey Club which tells you exactly what you need to do to read your chip and where you can buy a reader
Microchips supplied by The Jockey Club can be read with an ISO 11785 compliant microchip reader such as the Destron-Fearing Pocket EX available from Digital Angel. A number of other readers are also available from your veterinarian or veterinary supplier. You must ensure the reader you select is ISO 11785 compliant and can detect ISO compliant 11784 134.2 KHz radio frequency identification devices. For more information on microchip readers, please see the links below.
link
> mr hawaii Wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So when is the microchip inserted(at what age)?
> > Surely with all his lolly Mr Adams and other
> big
> > owners can buy a scanner(I doubt it could be
> that
> > expensive) to use at stables?
>
> I already took some time to address the problems
> that may arise if every Tom Dick and Harry had
> access to a chip scanner......but here goes
> again......having a chip scanner would enable some
> Joe to locate the chip.....and remove it .....and
> replace it with some other chip......pulling off a
> ringer sting of note.....so it is not a question
> of how much they cost.....but in who's hands they
> would fall into.......not only be able to pull off
> a coup on a race course but sell a live donkey
> that looks like your turf champion......when you
> just sent your dead superstar to the lion
> park.....:
but surely any vet has a scanner for dogs and cats - try google and you'll find universal scanners on sale for a few thousand rands so I don't buy that at all - This is not some new technology at all and is available easily unless there is something special about horse chips(which i doubt)
www.homesteadfarmsupplies.co.uk/-c-102.html
here's a link after a one minute google search
and now a link to the USA Jockey Club which tells you exactly what you need to do to read your chip and where you can buy a reader
Microchips supplied by The Jockey Club can be read with an ISO 11785 compliant microchip reader such as the Destron-Fearing Pocket EX available from Digital Angel. A number of other readers are also available from your veterinarian or veterinary supplier. You must ensure the reader you select is ISO 11785 compliant and can detect ISO compliant 11784 134.2 KHz radio frequency identification devices. For more information on microchip readers, please see the links below.
link
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Re: Re: Hassen Adams calls it quits...
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> Adams is bluffing,he wnt leave racing ,even if he
> does racing is bigger than him,the
> show will go on
The last thing that this game needs is top owners that have put [plenty money in the game to pack it up...sure they may replaced by the next big money guy or girl but as a whole it is not good for the industry......a passion for the game and the big bucks is a better combination than big passion no bucks.....or no passion big bucks stuffing it up completely.....he has every right to voice his concerns about the game has he has more clout than all of us put together... the PTB should take heed of his utterings as it becomes rather farcical when they have an employee make a mistake that affects the reputation of our racing and then fine a trainer ten times more than the usual fine because the mistake was not identified before becoming an absolute catastrophe.....when the NHRA dish out these fines there has to be a precident.....he is only guilty of bringing the wrong horse to the course(through no fault of his own) but must be fined accordingly....the NHRA are not supposed to be involved with the how and why but the facts.... wrong horse fine A .....wrong racing silks(colours) fine B..... no up to date passport Fine C..... no inoculations fine D....
None of this .....your mistake made us look like dicks.... fine 10 times more....:
> Adams is bluffing,he wnt leave racing ,even if he
> does racing is bigger than him,the
> show will go on
The last thing that this game needs is top owners that have put [plenty money in the game to pack it up...sure they may replaced by the next big money guy or girl but as a whole it is not good for the industry......a passion for the game and the big bucks is a better combination than big passion no bucks.....or no passion big bucks stuffing it up completely.....he has every right to voice his concerns about the game has he has more clout than all of us put together... the PTB should take heed of his utterings as it becomes rather farcical when they have an employee make a mistake that affects the reputation of our racing and then fine a trainer ten times more than the usual fine because the mistake was not identified before becoming an absolute catastrophe.....when the NHRA dish out these fines there has to be a precident.....he is only guilty of bringing the wrong horse to the course(through no fault of his own) but must be fined accordingly....the NHRA are not supposed to be involved with the how and why but the facts.... wrong horse fine A .....wrong racing silks(colours) fine B..... no up to date passport Fine C..... no inoculations fine D....
None of this .....your mistake made us look like dicks.... fine 10 times more....:
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Re: Re: Hassen Adams calls it quits...
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....already checked who bought what....and see nothing to get exited about....actually those who land up with these misfits are going to get stuck out faster than most got stuck in....:
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