I've got nothing to hide

its fact not fiction Titch.....and you know it china.............if you are part of their inner circle then you for obvious reasons will not divulge your true feelings -- i am not a mug punter-well i hope not---i love racing but as far as i am concerned any transgression against the so-called authorities MUST BE PUNISHED... we all have a past ---its not the past its the present we are on here about and not characters but RULES of the game

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if you are a jock in it for SELF WEALTH then you will see your ARSE sooner them later...............as mentoined ealry there is a huge conflict of interests when a jock rides in a race where a punter is onvolved with him

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DECALRE TO THE PUBLIC THEN PRIOR TO THE RACE WHAT YOU ARE DOING

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haha like that will ever happen

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cloaks and daggers Titch

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where money is invloved you will find the rotten eggs

ruffian Wrote:

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> I can't comment on Mr Fortune's riding skills in
> that race as I haven't viewed the footage. I must
> however compliment him on his newly found
> linguistic skills. His grammar is impeccable and
> his writing succinctly clear.
>
> .


Unlike UNHAPPY ( ....

pirates Wrote:

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> answer the question goebels does this scenario
> give racing a good image?


Only people that want to see the non existent skulduggery in any scenario would see something wrong in that result, those who took the time to see how groundless your concern was would realize how easy it would be for Andy to own the horse and run it in JR's name, half full for some and half empty for others its just the way we choose to look at it.

PS there are 2 "b's" in Goebbels

Andrew - thanks for setting things straight - im glad i never attacked your character and i appreciate that things from the saddle are not the same as from the grandstand - all the best Happy Forever

titch it is very clear that you either need a new tv set or a new pair of glasses or both..

Eyesman I agree 100% that if there is a transgression it must be dealt with, but in the case that pirate was referring to no matter what the result was there would have been claims of "graft" and my question is simple why would Andy declare to the world that he owns the horse by running it in his name and colors if there was to be anything untoward, if the horse in question was running only in JR's name then this question would not have even been raised

anyway i still feel you could have been more vigorous - im just glad i never backed it! Titch by the way your points of view re pricing of the horses are actually not relevant as what has that got to do with it anyway. Just my point of view

I was one that posted after the race and i keep to my opinion. If Manne never had to look over the shoulder and just kept riding the horse to the line, then the horse would have won. That is my opinion and i am sticking to it. If it was or wasn't Manne posting.......then take some advise....use it, don't use it.......you have probably heard it a 1000 times........don't look over you shoulder, don't drop your hands and just ride the horse to the line. I am not cared if the horse is 50m ahead and is going to get a bigger penalty!

blueyonder001 Wrote:

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> anyway i still feel you could have been more
> vigorous - im just glad i never backed it! Titch
> by the way your points of view re pricing of the
> horses are actually not relevant as what has that
> got to do with it anyway. Just my point of view


I agree the betting is not the issue but Tero made a statement that it was obvious that Andy was on the better horse and the point i was trying to make was that purely on form it was not nessaceraly the better horse and that Tero.s opinion was based on the fact that at 8/10 it had to be the better horse when the form imo suggested otherwise

PeeKay Wrote:

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> I was one that posted after the race and i keep to
> my opinion. If Manne never had to look over the
> shoulder and just kept riding the horse to the
> line, then the horse would have won. That is my
> opinion and i am sticking to it. If it was or
> wasn't Manne posting.......then take some
> advise....use it, don't use it.......you have
> probably heard it a 1000 times........don't look
> over you shoulder, don't drop your hands and just
> ride the horse to the line. I am not cared if the
> horse is 50m ahead and is going to get a bigger
> penalty!

Fair comment PK

Im still BACKING Andrew every time he is aboard HAPPY FOREVER..... the candyman will make me sweet money!!!!

pirates Wrote:

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> titch it is very clear that you either need a new
> tv set or a new pair of glasses or both..

What did I miss??

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