''Politics over'' who is going to win the JULY????

Frodo - Abashiri's not one of my July picks so objectively maybe it's because he's a really special horse? Rocketball and Samurai Blade aren't anything special and sometimes special horses can defy logic and do the impossible..

Frodo wrote:

shrek wrote:

Merp wrote:

shrek wrote: Solid Speed. Loves Greyville, well in at the weights and well drawn. Looks a massive runner to me.

Very little form between the 3 year olds and older horses so very difficult to assess how good they are. I still like It's My Turn, won the Derby well and ran an excellent second in the daily news off a slow pace. Won't have a problem staying.

I will be floating these two in the quarter and dutching them.

Plenty of horses under severe sufference in this race and plenty I have drawn a line through.

Shrek, would you mind sharing the list of horses you've eliminated.

All of 10,11,12,14,15,16,17 and close to eliminating 7.

Well if you eliminate Rocket Ball and Samurai Blade, what about Abashiri - 3.5 kgs worse off with those on the SA Derby run :huh:

That was Abashiri's 3rd tough run in 2 months and feel he is better than the Derby run.

I can't see a 3 year winning other than the 3 Snaith runners.

MasterOfMyFate wrote: Made my decision quite a while back and bad draws won't change my mind. Great horses win from anywhere. Pomodoro won it from 20 and he was no world beater.

Black Arthur and Marinaresco. Draw 17 and 19. The hype is real this time.\\

I'll be doing in depth write-ups for these two fellas near July day. Keep a look out if you want to be convinced.

MOM, the only thing that's gonna keep me interested in these 2 is your write-up. Can't wait as I've pretty much ruled them out already.

Race 5: Streets of Gold looks ready to shead its maiden tag

Frodo wrote:

Dave Scott wrote: So it's Solid Speed guys is this the banker for our pick6 ?

I think a lot of things in his favor - but I don't think the same trainer / jock combo has won the race 2 years in a row - I know there is a first time fro everything.

But I hope you are right - would be my best result.

Just for the record I have backed 11 of the 18 current starters Ante-Post

Bela Bela at 12/1
Solid Speed at 66/1
Mac de Lago at 28/1
Its My Turn at 28/1
Marinaresco at 25/1
St Tropez at 16/1
Mambo Mine at 33/1
Master Sabina at 55/1
Black Arthur at 5/1 and 6/1
The Conglomerate at 20/1
Rabada at 20/1 and 25/1

Of those, Solid Speed would be my best result followed by The Conglomerate, Master Sabina and Mac de Lago, smaller profit on Black Arthur, Its my Turn, St Tropez and Mambo Mine and sort of breaking square on Bela Bela and Marinaresco

So I would really not be happy if French Navy were to win :lol:

I think De cock and delpech did it with bold silvano and Igugu

If Bela Bela can hold her position from the jump, she will win irrespective of the pace of the race.

bayern wrote: If Bela Bela can hold her position from the jump, she will win irrespective of the pace of the race.

I AGREE, IMT will be chasing her home!

High Tide wrote:

bayern wrote: If Bela Bela can hold her position from the jump, she will win irrespective of the pace of the race.

I AGREE, IMT will be chasing her home!

Similar to how he rode Classic Flag to Victory.

From the 3 draw Bela Bela needs a clean start as there will be plenty looking to come across her and if she takes a few knocks it could be tickets for her.

Solid Speed a couple of years older with good form and a liking for the track only has to give her 1kg. If it wasn't for the Legal Eagle scratching he would have been giving her 3,5 kg's, that will play a massive role in the chances of most of the 3 year olds. I see some bookies are already trimming his odds. Grab the 12/1 on offer with a few before it's all gone. Will be single figures soon.

I agree on his last run I cannot see Solid Speed getting beat at 15/1 this am was a great price (if he wins).

shrek wrote: From the 3 draw Bela Bela needs a clean start as there will be plenty looking to come across her and if she takes a few knocks it could be tickets for her.

Solid Speed a couple of years older with good form and a liking for the track only has to give her 1kg. If it wasn't for the Legal Eagle scratching he would have been giving her 3,5 kg's, that will play a massive role in the chances of most of the 3 year olds. I see some bookies are already trimming his odds. Grab the 12/1 on offer with a few before it's all gone. Will be single figures soon.

C, point taken, I am going to trust Delpech's judgement on choice of rides. Considering he has ridden Solid Speed to both victories in the current KZN season, Delpech must know how much more improvement there is to come from Solid Speed, especially with less weight to carry than in the 1900.

The Snaith stable were seemingly confident (before Woolavington/Daily News day) that Black Arthur was good enough to miss that race, go straight into the July and possibly win it. Delpech seemingly riding Black Arthur up until that stage.

Woolavington run, Bela Bela wins in smart fashion and you would imagine it was the manner in which she won, that convinced the stable to leave her in for the July. Think it's fair to say she quickened well in both the Guineas and Woolavington confirming her class/improvement, so much so, Delpech has hopped off Black Arthur. I would be guessing if i said she is a big horse and therefore will hold her own during a rough run race, but small framed horses have done equally well at Greyville. Her ability to quicken is what may win it for her.

Kannemeyer has "been there, done that" , so i wouldn't dismiss Solid Speed's winning chances, however if the filly gets first run on them, she will go very close.

Bob I think you have it spot on, but do include dynamic and it's my turn and you will catch the quartet . Dynamic will be in front or close to the front away from all the bumping etc, will still be galloping to the finish, Which position it will finish I am not sure but in the first 4 for sure.