IS HE GUILTY?

......while trying to stay impartial and see if this whole thing was a big bad mistake.....I now see a picture of the metal plate that gives access to the plumbing under the bath ......it had been damaged and looks kicked in.....only someone going berserk and trying to scare some one would take out their rage and boot this plate,,,,,bashing and booting the door fits with Oscar's defence.....but what is the rational reason for the plate to be damaged....looks like he lost his wig and chased her into the toilet....also toilet window open and blinds up....maybe she was trying to escape.....:

Muhtiman Wrote:

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> ......while trying to stay impartial and see if
> this whole thing was a big bad mistake.....I now
> see a picture of the metal plate that gives access
> to the plumbing under the bath ......it had been
> damaged and looks kicked in.....only someone going
> berserk and trying to scare some one would take
> out their rage and boot this plate,,,,,bashing and
> booting the door fits with Oscar's defence.....but
> what is the rational reason for the plate to be
> damaged....looks like he lost his wig and chased
> her into the toilet....also toilet window open and
> blinds up....maybe she was trying to
> escape.....:

when they showed the pictures yesterday there was a hole in the main bedroom door they say it look like a bullet hole, wonder if ti will be of any significance?

wonder what the good looking blond behind BR will wear today I see she alternate her out fits in the sense that one day she will wear something black and white then another color outfit the next day and the another black and white outfit, according to my calculations she must be wearing something black and white probably with stripes today
man I love blonds

why was there damage to the door at the entrance to the bedroom

I have on purposely not been following with both ears because I feel he is as guilty as sin and should be put away for a long time. I would however like to ask a question, What if this guy in the restaurant didnt take the rap for OP discharging his weapon, and OP was charged and found guilty ,wouldnt his weapons have been confiscated or his license revoked ? Isnt this other guy then indirectly also guilty and should be charged with something ? Both theses stories of the sun roof and restaurant shows me he has no respect for a firearm and the consequences of his actions.

Cant understand why the state is leading this morn with the issue of stolen watch. Surely this is playing into the hands of the defence. Questions will be raised about integrity of police.

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> wonder what the good looking blond behind BR will
> wear today I see she alternate her out fits in the
> sense that one day she will wear something black
> and white then another color outfit the next day
> and the another black and white outfit, according
> to my calculations she must be wearing something
> black and white probably with stripes today
> man I love blonds


the blond is gone!!!!
saw her this morning with black and white
Monday will be black and white again I think

Between all the various witnesses Im still trying to figure out who has fared the worst. It's a very close race! They all seem badly prepped and look all at sea in the witness box.

In any event all this other 'evidence' is a waste of time.

Put Oscar on the stand, grill him for a few days and then everyone can go home.

Saksy Wrote:

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> Between all the various witnesses Im still trying
> to figure out who has fared the worst. It's a very
> close race! They all seem badly prepped and look
> all at sea in the witness box.
>
> In any event all this other 'evidence' is a waste
> of time.
>
> Put Oscar on the stand, grill him for a few days
> and then everyone can go home.

That's when this trial starts for me as he is already struggling emotionally without being on the stand and I wonder how he'll keep it together when Nel has his chance to heat that seat

If i was OP I would not take the stand
because the state must prove beyond reasonable doubt that his version van not be true and I think they can not do that, manslaughter at best

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> If i was OP I would not take the stand
> because the state must prove beyond reasonable
> doubt that his version van not be true and I think
> they can not do that, manslaughter at best


I'm not sure if he can now as the state has a right to question him on his statement for his bail application and I'm sure I heard something about him giving his version when his advocate read his responses to the charge sheeet and Mr Roux has mentioned Mr Pretorius will say .. - Without him giving evidence to the contrary how can he possibly believe the court will not favor the versions presented by Fresco, Sam Taylor and Lerena (who has as far as I know no reason to lie about what happened) if he does not state otherwise?

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> JAMES BLOND Wrote:
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>

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> > If i was OP I would not take the stand
> > because the state must prove beyond reasonable
> > doubt that his version van not be true and I
> think
> > they can not do that, manslaughter at best
>
>
> I'm not sure if he can now as the state has a
> right to question him on his statement for his
> bail application and I'm sure I heard something
> about him giving his version when his advocate
> read his responses to the charge sheeet and Mr
> Roux has mentioned Mr Pretorius will say .. -
> Without him giving evidence to the contrary how
> can he possibly believe the court will not favor
> the versions presented by Fresco, Sam Taylor and
> Lerena (who has as far as I know no reason to lie
> about what happened) if he does not state
> otherwise?

MR H with my layman knowledge you can not be forced to testify or br questioned if you do not want to but maybe our learned friend Haupir can shed light on hat
my take is we know he shot R the state must prove beyond reasonable doubt that his intention was to murder her and with what I have heard so far I do not think that the state will be able to prove that , ro much conflicting evidence imo so for him to testify can hurt him
the gun charges is not so serious it was brought in to discredit his character because in MURDER TRAIL you are not allowed character witnesses smart move from the sttae to prove he liked guns but it does not disprove his version

do not be surprised when BR brings application to have murder charges to be dropped once state closes it case, that will be a shrewd move, because if the states case is not strong I am sure the judge will consider that