Magic Feet or not?

In a Maiden ?

lol

Magic Feet and Ignition Lady nominated in same maiden plate on the 23rd !!!

I'm sure I read somewhere that no blame whatsoever has been placed on the stipes

hibernia Wrote:

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> I'm sure I read somewhere that no blame whatsoever
> has been placed on the stipes


CAPE HORSE IDENTIFIER SACKED
The contract of the horse identifier at Kenilworth, who was a part-time worker, has been terminated following a disciplinary hearing into the mix up last week whereby a winner carded as Magic Feet was later found to have actually been a horse called Ignition Lady.

Chief stipendiary steward in Cape Town, Ernie Rodrigues, said “After the incident she was taken off her job for the day and sent home. She was suspended immediately pending a disciplinary hearing. In the disciplinary hearing her contract was terminated with immediate effect.”

Rodrigues emphasised that no blame could be apportioned to the stipendiary stewards responsible for identifying the pair of horses on the day they earned their respective starting stall certificates.

He said that the mix up would have been spotted immediately had the pair arrived at the starting stalls individually.

However, on the day, trainer Darryl Hodgson had arrived with three horses and they unfortunately included both Magic Feet and Ignition Lady, who had been mixed up after a sale.

“Both horses were scanned and correctly identified against their passports,” said Rodrigues about the pair that has distinctly different markings.

“The passports were signed and the one was graded as a ‘nervous’ starter and the other was given a “B” grading.

The stipendiary stewards would have had no way of knowing that in the trainer’s mind A was B, and vice versa, and that the trainer still believed this to be the case after the horses had returned to the yard.

However, Rodrigues emphasised that the error should never have got past the on-course horse identifier as the filly was a first-timer and her markings were clearly different to those on the passport.

“Every horse at the races needs to be positively identified and she should not have missed it,” he said.

The error was spotted when the horse was scanned in the specimen area.

Rodrigues said, “The horses are scanned in the specimen area to ensure that it is actually the winner that is being tested and this was where the ID was found not to match.”

There were two similar cases at Scottsville recently, both emanating from sales mix ups, but both errors were picked up by the horse identifier. – Gold Circle.

montypython Wrote:

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> > I'm sure I read somewhere that no blame
> whatsoever
> > has been placed on the stipes
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> CAPE HORSE IDENTIFIER SACKED
> The contract of the horse identifier at
> Kenilworth, who was a part-time worker, has been
> terminated following a disciplinary hearing into
> the mix up last week whereby a winner carded as
> Magic Feet was later found to have actually been a
> horse called Ignition Lady.
>
> Chief stipendiary steward in Cape Town, Ernie
> Rodrigues, said “After the incident she was
> taken off her job for the day and sent home. She
> was suspended immediately pending a disciplinary
> hearing. In the disciplinary hearing her contract
> was terminated with immediate effect.”
>
> Rodrigues emphasised that no blame could be
> apportioned to the stipendiary stewards
> responsible for identifying the pair of horses on
> the day they earned their respective starting
> stall certificates.
>
> He said that the mix up would have been spotted
> immediately had the pair arrived at the starting
> stalls individually.
>
> However, on the day, trainer Darryl Hodgson had
> arrived with three horses and they unfortunately
> included both Magic Feet and Ignition Lady, who
> had been mixed up after a sale.
>
> “Both horses were scanned and correctly
> identified against their passports,” said
> Rodrigues about the pair that has distinctly
> different markings.
>
> “The passports were signed and the one was
> graded as a ‘nervous’ starter and the other
> was given a “B” grading.
>
> The stipendiary stewards would have had no way of
> knowing that in the trainer’s mind A was B, and
> vice versa, and that the trainer still believed
> this to be the case after the horses had returned
> to the yard.
>
> However, Rodrigues emphasised that the error
> should never have got past the on-course horse
> identifier as the filly was a first-timer and her
> markings were clearly different to those on the
> passport.
>
> “Every horse at the races needs to be positively
> identified and she should not have missed it,”
> he said.
>
> The error was spotted when the horse was scanned
> in the specimen area.
>
> Rodrigues said, “The horses are scanned in the
> specimen area to ensure that it is actually the
> winner that is being tested and this was where the
> ID was found not to match.”
>
> There were two similar cases at Scottsville
> recently, both emanating from sales mix ups, but
> both errors were picked up by the horse
> identifier. – Gold Circle

If the error was spotted in the specimen area and forgive me for being clueless, why then was the race given the "all clear" and the error made known only later on after a couple of races had won, or am I just being stupid?.

Do they only check the winner?

What would have happened if next time out with a run under the belt they pick up it was Ignition Lady and not Magic Feet?

My suggestion is this, with a " error" and I say the loosely because I don't believe it was an error of this magnitude, a full investigation from a panel independent of the NHRA should have been headed up, It is too easy to cover up things in an internal cover up i mean "investigation". Perhaps it may be an idea to have and ABC investigative team setup, would be interested in the findings as the NHRA are by no means transparent. My enjoyment in this game has been so diminished

> However, Rodrigues emphasised that the error
> should never have got past the on-course horse
> identifier as the filly was a first-timer and her
> markings were clearly different to those on the
> passport.

So not only did she not scan the horse.....she never even checked the markings against the passport......clearly the wrong person in the job...Interesting that the NHRA actually have contracts for such people....ie they are not full time employee's and can be contractually terminated.

Very clever.... just shows that it pays to employ a few lawyers......and that is where all the money is going......:

montypython Wrote:

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> My suggestion is this, with a " error" and I say
> the loosely because I don't believe it was an
> error of this magnitude, a full investigation from
> a panel independent of the NHRA should have been
> headed up, It is too easy to cover up things in an
> internal cover up i mean "investigation". Perhaps
> it may be an idea to have and ABC investigative
> team setup, would be interested in the findings as
> the NHRA are by no means transparent. My
> enjoyment in this game has been so diminished


To be fair this was not covered up and had the stipe not noticed the error and reported it we would be none the wiser until the horse ran again and was scanned. I do think it was an error not anything sinister - The horse started friendless and that owner can shorten his horses drastically when he wants to, the identifier has been dismissed which with our Labour Law is not to be taken lightly. I would like to see what sanctions the NHRA will hand out to Hodgson who is the initiator of this fiasco as is the person that gave the identifier employment.

mr hawaii Wrote:
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> To be fair this was not covered up and had the
> stipe not noticed the error and reported it we
> would be none the wiser until the horse ran again
> and was scanned. I do think it was an error not
> anything sinister - The horse started friendless
> and that owner can shorten his horses drastically
> when he wants to, the identifier has been
> dismissed which with our Labour Law is not to be
> taken lightly. I would like to see what sanctions
> the NHRA will hand out to Hodgson who is the
> initiator of this fiasco as is the person that
> gave the identifier employment.

Doubt if it would go further than this as the stipe statement is vindicating themselves and trainer around the starting stall issue in that they passed and were certified together and the "switch' or mixup was not noticed.....bet from now on starting stall trials are going to be like hell....The scape goat has taken the fall.....but just imagine how stipes must have reacted after the race when they identified the wrong horse.....no wonder they told the horse identifier to go home.....the passport did not even match either....:

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> > My suggestion is this, with a " error" and I
> say
> > the loosely because I don't believe it was an
> > error of this magnitude, a full investigation
> from
> > a panel independent of the NHRA should have
> been
> > headed up, It is too easy to cover up things in
> an
> > internal cover up i mean "investigation".
> Perhaps
> > it may be an idea to have and ABC investigative
> > team setup, would be interested in the findings
> as
> > the NHRA are by no means transparent. My
> > enjoyment in this game has been so diminished
>
>
> To be fair this was not covered up and had the
> stipe not noticed the error and reported it we
> would be none the wiser until the horse ran again
> and was scanned. I do think it was an error not
> anything sinister - The horse started friendless
> and that owner can shorten his horses drastically
> when he wants to, the identifier has been
> dismissed which with our Labour Law is not to be
> taken lightly. I would like to see what sanctions
> the NHRA will hand out to Hodgson who is the
> initiator of this fiasco as is the person that
> gave the identifier employment.

I didn't say it was covered up, what I said was it is too easy to cover things up in an internal investigation, how long does it take for dope test results, isn't the winner always tested, and if so doesn't the horse get scanned again, sorry once again forgive my stupidity

montypython Wrote:

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> > > My suggestion is this, with a " error" and I
> > say
> > > the loosely because I don't believe it was an
> > > error of this magnitude, a full investigation
> > from
> > > a panel independent of the NHRA should have
> > been
> > > headed up, It is too easy to cover up things
> in
> > an
> > > internal cover up i mean "investigation".
> > Perhaps
> > > it may be an idea to have and ABC
> investigative
> > > team setup, would be interested in the
> findings
> > as
> > > the NHRA are by no means transparent. My
> > > enjoyment in this game has been so diminished
> >
> >
> > To be fair this was not covered up and had the
> > stipe not noticed the error and reported it we
> > would be none the wiser until the horse ran
> again
> > and was scanned. I do think it was an error not
> > anything sinister - The horse started
> friendless
> > and that owner can shorten his horses
> drastically
> > when he wants to, the identifier has been
> > dismissed which with our Labour Law is not to
> be
> > taken lightly. I would like to see what
> sanctions
> > the NHRA will hand out to Hodgson who is the
> > initiator of this fiasco as is the person that
> > gave the identifier employment.
>
> I didn't say it was covered up, what I said was it
> is too easy to cover things up in an internal
> investigation, how long does it take for dope test
> results, isn't the winner always tested, and if so
> doesn't the horse get scanned again, sorry once
> again forgive my stupidity

but if you look through the stipes reports you will often see horses with incorrect passports being scratched so the stipes(identifiers) do do their work in general in this area - I think this incident was caused by human error alone and that there was no criminality involved - The NHRA needs to find out who appointed this lady and why they did so and they should also be fired and the trainer must take responsibility because without his complete sloppiness this would not have happened.