Louis & Karel - talking Merit Ratings

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8 years 2 weeks ago
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Zietsman Oosthuizen wrote: If it wasnt for merit ratings then racing would have already at the point where only the big 10 owners have own horses .... most small owners would been gone.

I love the merit rating system.

Punters loved the old system because it was easy to find standout bets on almost every card but nowadays its not easy with a more levelled playing field in handicaps

Ziets you clearly are biased and I get the fact that you want to prolong the agony for owners of mules for as long as you can. The Race Figure system put a horse in its place a lot quicker than MR. Its no wonder trainers are so protective of it.

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Re: Louis & Karel - talking Merit Ratings

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easy wrote: Of ALL the trainers I have horses in South Africa NOT 1 has ever told me


" there is a mile handicap race in 300 days time which we will win and this is how we going to do it."

NOT 1

With your track record I am not surprised. Any trainer of yours would be foolish to plan months ahead.

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Really what track record is that?

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Mr Easy your track record is well established, there is no need to debate your volatilities. I am surprised that the NHA have not charged both your current trainers and your partners for contravening the rules regarding ownership, you give racing under the lap a whole new meaning. Solly Bhana was forced to deregister the horses he raced in his daughters name and register them in his. He got fined for his troubles. You should be no different.

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Re: Louis & Karel - talking Merit Ratings

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Zietsman Oosthuizen wrote: If it wasnt for merit ratings then racing would have already at the point where only the big 10 owners have own horses .... most small owners would been gone.

I love the merit rating system.

Punters loved the old system because it was easy to find standout bets on almost every card but nowadays its not easy with a more levelled playing field in handicaps

Ziets you clearly are biased and I get the fact that you want to prolong the agony for owners of mules for as long as you can. The Race Figure system put a horse in its place a lot quicker than MR. Its no wonder trainers are so protective of it.

You clearly just want to piss me off with your stupid assumptions but i will give it to you straight , i love merit ratings , as part of training them and even more as an owner. If it wasnt for this system i wouldnt be able to own horses (or so many) and wouldnt have had so many wins .and yes the fact that the merit rating system prolong racing careers is brilliant. I dont know any owner that do UNDERSTAND the old system and do UNDERSTAND merit rating system that want the old system back. Its only punters and big punting stables that will want it back . Prolonging a average horse career is great , why not. If the horse is sound and can keep earning then why not???
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Re: Louis & Karel - talking Merit Ratings

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Volatility does not translate to my statement above

I have not ever met 1 trainer that plans to win a handicap
That far in advance.

So have a go at me but miss the point completely.

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easy wrote: Of ALL the trainers I have horses in South Africa NOT 1 has ever told me


" there is a mile handicap race in 300 days time which we will win and this is how we going to do it."

NOT 1

Because the program of meetings is not done a year (or 10 months like you want it) ahead but only 6 months so your wish is impossible . And i dont know anybody who is prepared to pay almost a year the the monthly keep to try and win a race after you dropped his rating over 10 months to make him a certainty in the race , in racing their is no certainties .
So to conclude , your statement is quite absurd and in fact impossible

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Zietsman Oosthuizen wrote:
Over the Air wrote:
Zietsman Oosthuizen wrote: If it wasnt for merit ratings then racing would have already at the point where only the big 10 owners have own horses .... most small owners would been gone.

I love the merit rating system.

Punters loved the old system because it was easy to find standout bets on almost every card but nowadays its not easy with a more levelled playing field in handicaps

Ziets you clearly are biased and I get the fact that you want to prolong the agony for owners of mules for as long as you can. The Race Figure system put a horse in its place a lot quicker than MR. Its no wonder trainers are so protective of it.

You clearly just want to piss me off with your stupid assumptions but i will give it to you straight , i love merit ratings , as part of training them and even more as an owner. If it wasnt for this system i wouldnt be able to own horses (or so many) and wouldnt have had so many wins .and yes the fact that the merit rating system prolong racing careers is brilliant. I dont know any owner that do UNDERSTAND the old system and do UNDERSTAND merit rating system that want the old system back. Its only punters and big punting stables that will want it back . Prolonging a average horse career is great , why not. If the horse is sound and can keep earning then why not???

Ziets answer me this simple question. Who usually makes the call to retire a horse and why.

Please be honest we not mugs here.

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Re: Louis & Karel - talking Merit Ratings

8 years 2 weeks ago - 8 years 2 weeks ago
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I do with my horses

And with most other in the stable i give my honest opinion and then owner can decide if he follows my honest opinion or not. I dont want a horse or help train a horse that i think cannot earn .

And if you dont want to be seen as a mug then put your name with your insults or personal questions
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Zietsman I have been involved with horses when you were still thin so please dont take me for a fool.

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Re: Louis & Karel - talking Merit Ratings

8 years 2 weeks ago
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Over the Air wrote: Zietsman I have been involved with horses when you were still thin so please dont take me for a fool.

No need for personal insults like this :angry:
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Re: Louis & Karel - talking Merit Ratings

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The BEST chirp to come out of this is one of you actually took the time to call Goosen and tell him I was having a go..........

"sir sir Johnny spilt the water "

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