IS HE GUILTY?
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11 years 3 months ago
OP'S attorneys far better than prosecuting attorneys. IMO he will go free.
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11 years 3 months ago
Saksy Wrote:
> For me the dead give away is how Oscar reacted
> once he had fired the shots and returned to his
> bedroom.
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> According to Oscar's version in his affidavit his
> alleged state of mind was being filled with
> “horror and fear of an intruder or intruders
> being inside the toilet”, and then “I realised
> that Reeva was not in bed. That is when it dawned
> on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the
> toilet. I returned to the bathroom calling her
> name.”. It does not reason that he would have
> assumed that it “could have been Reeva who was
> in the toilet” without having checked the entire
> house first to ascertain her whereabouts.
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> Furthermore Oscar acted upon this assumption. It
> does not make sense that one minute he was fearful
> for his life shooting at a potential intruder and
> the next minute he was frantically trying to open
> the toilet door simply on the basis of “it could
> have been Reeva who was in the toilet” because
> in his mind there would still have been a chance
> that there could still have been an
> intruder/intruders in the toilet, and he would
> have then been risking his life.
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> I believe the only logical and reasonable scenario
> is that Oscar KNEW Reeva was in the toilet when he
> was trying to open the door, and the only way he
> could have known this was because he knew she was
> in the toilet when he fired the shots.
SASky I like your argument makes sense
> For me the dead give away is how Oscar reacted
> once he had fired the shots and returned to his
> bedroom.
>
> According to Oscar's version in his affidavit his
> alleged state of mind was being filled with
> “horror and fear of an intruder or intruders
> being inside the toilet”, and then “I realised
> that Reeva was not in bed. That is when it dawned
> on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the
> toilet. I returned to the bathroom calling her
> name.”. It does not reason that he would have
> assumed that it “could have been Reeva who was
> in the toilet” without having checked the entire
> house first to ascertain her whereabouts.
>
> Furthermore Oscar acted upon this assumption. It
> does not make sense that one minute he was fearful
> for his life shooting at a potential intruder and
> the next minute he was frantically trying to open
> the toilet door simply on the basis of “it could
> have been Reeva who was in the toilet” because
> in his mind there would still have been a chance
> that there could still have been an
> intruder/intruders in the toilet, and he would
> have then been risking his life.
>
> I believe the only logical and reasonable scenario
> is that Oscar KNEW Reeva was in the toilet when he
> was trying to open the door, and the only way he
> could have known this was because he knew she was
> in the toilet when he fired the shots.
SASky I like your argument makes sense
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11 years 3 months ago
I see in the Beeld that Kevin Lerena has also been summonsed by the prosecution to appear as a witness, apparently he was with Oscar when he fired shots in a reataurant
wonder what relationship is he to the other two Lerena's?
then also on the front page of the beeld there was this story on OP shooting with Dereik Hougaard and he is firing a 9 mm so the @#$%^ reporter says it is the gun that RS was killed, that is impossible because that gun will be part of the evidence, sometimes all the !@#$% reporters all that want is sensation. Maybe the reporter shouls apply for a job at TT because they also get their facts wrong
but then I can not believe that OP can be so stupid to do things like that before his trail, he should know that it does came out, which happehed because they made a video of that, it will have a negative impact
I wonder if he thinks before he acts, and that is why I say what happened that knight was a spur of the moment thing IMO
wonder what relationship is he to the other two Lerena's?
then also on the front page of the beeld there was this story on OP shooting with Dereik Hougaard and he is firing a 9 mm so the @#$%^ reporter says it is the gun that RS was killed, that is impossible because that gun will be part of the evidence, sometimes all the !@#$% reporters all that want is sensation. Maybe the reporter shouls apply for a job at TT because they also get their facts wrong

but then I can not believe that OP can be so stupid to do things like that before his trail, he should know that it does came out, which happehed because they made a video of that, it will have a negative impact
I wonder if he thinks before he acts, and that is why I say what happened that knight was a spur of the moment thing IMO
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11 years 3 months ago
His version of events dictates that we believe he was unaware that Reeva was not in the bed next to him,if he was of the opinion that there was an intruder surely his first reaction should be to warn her or lock her in the bedroom while he investigates?? and how could she be shot 4 times and not utter a word or cry out, no doubt in my mind.....
Give everything but up!
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11 years 3 months ago
Hahaha
007 are u thick. Maybe u should get a job at TT. U should read or
listen properely. That footage was taken a few weeks before the
shooting. Get your facts straight before u insult the reporters.
007 are u thick. Maybe u should get a job at TT. U should read or
listen properely. That footage was taken a few weeks before the
shooting. Get your facts straight before u insult the reporters.
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11 years 3 months ago
onyerway Wrote:
> Hahaha
> 007 are u thick. Maybe u should get a job at TT.
> U should read or
> listen properely. That footage was taken a few
> weeks before the
> shooting. Get your facts straight before u insult
> the reporters.
as a matter of fact I did make a mistake the reporter is so "good" in the whole report it is never mentioned when it was taken!
hope you can read afrikaans here is the article in case you got doubts about that and call me thick again
www.beeld.com/nuus/2014-02-28-pret-met-n-pistool
it takes one thick person to notice another one
> Hahaha
> 007 are u thick. Maybe u should get a job at TT.
> U should read or
> listen properely. That footage was taken a few
> weeks before the
> shooting. Get your facts straight before u insult
> the reporters.
as a matter of fact I did make a mistake the reporter is so "good" in the whole report it is never mentioned when it was taken!
hope you can read afrikaans here is the article in case you got doubts about that and call me thick again
www.beeld.com/nuus/2014-02-28-pret-met-n-pistool
it takes one thick person to notice another one
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11 years 3 months ago
Lunch day one
first witness Michelle Burger said they heard a women scream and cry for help
started late , apparently some women with the name Annemarie tried to bring some application of some sort
The lady accessor is ADV Janette Henzen ( maiden name ) a friend of mine from RTB, also in our church, was surprised to hear she is one of the accessors.
first witness Michelle Burger said they heard a women scream and cry for help
started late , apparently some women with the name Annemarie tried to bring some application of some sort
The lady accessor is ADV Janette Henzen ( maiden name ) a friend of mine from RTB, also in our church, was surprised to hear she is one of the accessors.
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11 years 3 months ago
This 1st witness is being led into a trap. I think she is going to contradict herself very soon or contradict her original statement.
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11 years 3 months ago
imho Adv Barry Roux not making good impression, I am afraid if this the best the defence can offer they are going to have a hard time
Michelle Burger are sticking to het story making good impression in my view j
Michelle Burger are sticking to het story making good impression in my view j
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11 years 3 months ago
in USA the adv would have been taken up for witness badgering
he is a asshole harper on the same issues
questions unclear
keep on the same tune for the whole afternoon
he wants her to admit she heard cricket bat not the shots
he is a asshole harper on the same issues
questions unclear
keep on the same tune for the whole afternoon
he wants her to admit she heard cricket bat not the shots
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11 years 3 months ago
When you tell the truth, your version will never change. She is as honest as the day is long and has done her bit. It does not matter who it was, Oscar or not, she is insisting that what she heard is what she heard.
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