Where are they?

Titch Wrote:

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> Regretfully Bashful Allan died some years back as
> did his sister Debby who was Grant Kotzen's
> partner at the time of his passing, Grant IMO
> would have been one of the greatest jocks this
> country has ever produced..there was also a Gerald
> Levy (no relation) who rode for trainer Brian
> Cunningham and owner Ronnie Hammer..

..........memories
Grant Kotzen was one of my favourite jockeys.

Yes Ronnie Sjkoldhammer could fire I sometimes followed him around the ring watching him take the bookies on. Man he could hit them hard.

Ronnie was fearless...once helped him get on a horse @ the Vaal that Jean Hemming trained for him...the figures were scary, even in todays terms..

khargisland Wrote:

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> Tommy Ruck passed away in September 1998. The last
> winner he trained, posthumously, was Smart Card,
> which was for me. She was ridden by another
> memory, Theo Venter, now living in the UK.
> Tom Fleming, I believe, is out of racing and moved
> to PMB.
>
> RIP Ascot Racecourse

Thanks for that Khargis... Yes, good memories of Ascot. You're obviously from Bulawayo. Magic Lips also came from Bullies and so did Clifton King but he's in Aus now. Do you know what became of anyone else you can remember?

Still no mention by anybody of where Donovan Mansour is now. I know he went to Mauritius for a while is he overseas?

and Gerrit Viljoen??

Mac Wrote:

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> khargisland Wrote:
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> > Tommy Ruck passed away in September 1998. The
> last
> > winner he trained, posthumously, was Smart
> Card,
> > which was for me. She was ridden by another
> > memory, Theo Venter, now living in the UK.
> > Tom Fleming, I believe, is out of racing and
> moved
> > to PMB.
> >
> > RIP Ascot Racecourse
>
> Thanks for that Khargis... Yes, good memories of
> Ascot. You're obviously from Bulawayo. Magic Lips
> also came from Bullies and so did Clifton King but
> he's in Aus now. Do you know what became of anyone
> else you can remember?

Yep, Pat Ruck, Tommy's widow, moved back to theUK, as did Ronnie & Sheila Watson. I believe Jack Muir (Big patron of Bulawayo racing) moved to Cape Town & unfortunately developed cancer and passed away there. Mike Gaines-Burrell fell off a horse and also died. Sharon Patterson told me Noel Riddle (fearless and powerful jockey) pegged too. Must be our age... Dave McNab was busy drinking himself into a coma last time I saw him, and I'd be surprised if he was still around. Gerald Lerman (bookie) & Des James (bookie) Also gone to Neverland. I'm sure there are many more, and I'll list them as I remember them.
Go on to Google Earth and look at what's happened to the Racecourse proper. I'm so sad 'cos I spent many happy days & nights there.

Yeah Ronnie Watson - trained Admiral's Feast.
And Gerald Lerman - I went to school with his son.
Do you remember Jimmy Hollyhead?
I believe there is now a casino at Ascot?

Wonder what happened to Glenn Basson who used to ride for Terry Lowe?

Mac Wrote:

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> Yeah Ronnie Watson - trained Admiral's Feast.
> And Gerald Lerman - I went to school with his son.
>
> Do you remember Jimmy Hollyhead?
> I believe there is now a casino at Ascot?


Which son? I was in the army with Robert & Barry trained for me after Tommy died. Robert went bookmaking in Springs for a while, I believe.

khargisland Wrote:

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> Mac Wrote:
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> > Yeah Ronnie Watson - trained Admiral's Feast.
> > And Gerald Lerman - I went to school with his
> son.
> >
> > Do you remember Jimmy Hollyhead?
> > I believe there is now a casino at Ascot?
>
>
> Which son? I was in the army with Robert & Barry
> trained for me after Tommy died. Robert went
> bookmaking in Springs for a while, I believe.

Was Jimmy that deaf guy that always made so much noise??

Kevin Lerman, Barry's boet, think he went to Hong Kong.

Jimmy , thats the guy, couldnt stop shouting. Very big punter.