John Freeman on Phindi Kema

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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It is irrelevant and pointless discussing personalities in an effort to validate, or invalidate, the present Competition Commission’s workings. The fact is that a good look is being taken at the proposed takeover of the Western Cape Racing by Phumelela to determine whether it is anti-competitive or not, despite whether some think it is justified or not, or whether Ms Kema/Mr Freeman are on your Xmas list or not.

If one is an advocate of competition being good for any industry/country, then there is great merit in the investigation. If one believes that P, in its current form and proposed future form, is good for racing then one would be against the investigation and would prefer P to do as it prefers.

The current investigation has its roots in Ms Kema’s offer to purchase Arlington. As a condition of purchase she would have been precluded from using it for horse racing (the nub of the condition).

In terms of the gambling act or regulations (Umlilo can shed more light on this) a tote may be operated only by an owner of a racecourse (one can speculate about how this clause was inserted – Umlilo would be able to tell us).

This in itself is not anti-competitive. To operate a tote one has the option of building a racecourse or buying an existing one. The anti-competitive event takes place when a racecourse is sold on condition that it may not be used for horse racing. The condition prevents the new owner from obtaining a tote licence (assuming all else is OK) and competing against the current tote operators.

This has nothing to do with the takeover of the Western Cape racing (or perhaps it does), but shows the environment in which P operates. Ms Kema’s unhappiness with the purchase condition was ultimately the initiator of the present investigation.

The tote competition factor would probably have played a significant role in rejecting any offer by Purple Capital or any other outside entity – the tote license would have accompanied the purchase.

It should also be strongly noted that P did an excellent job for racing prior to listing. Obviously they had to do well to qualify for a listing. After that there was a conflict of interest between P’s dividends and racing which would never happen in a competitive environment. The proof of this is in the racing performance prior to listing and that after listing. Why did they list if they were doing so well? What went wrong after the listing? The answers are obvious.

If stakes are used as a measure of the health of all aspects of horse racing then P, as a listed company, has done very poorly. Prior to listing, P had done so well that there was virtual parity between nominal and real stakes (real=inflation adjusted) – wonderful for racing.

Thereafter the stakes declined to such an extent that when they started recovering it took 5 years to reach the previous highest level of nominal stakes (while P was unlisted). This resulted in the nominal/real stakes diverging by so much that it is unlikely that they will ever recover under the present operators. The basic stakes and other racing data are available from the NHA web site and Statistics SA for the inflation rates.

Any justification for stakes being what they are because of the economy, would barely be believable today, but what about prior to mid-2008? The economy was doing very well – why were stakes so poor?

The root cause of the decline in stakes, and consequential effects on racing, can be found in the monopolistic environment in which the two inter-dependant operators play their games.

Perhaps the CC will help put a stop to this. Perhaps not and the unintended consequences, to be generous, of the listing will continue.

PS One of the main reasons given by P for corporatisation was the operating losses incurred by the racecourses. Despite inserting extra tracks at various courses and selling others, they still operate at a loss. They will only become profitable when they have large volumes of paying spectators, but this would require money to be spent on marketing and competing against other sports and leisure activities. Why bother if one has a monopoly on the other money making aspects of racing?

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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@ Rin


very well put

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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Rin good post, but it should be on the other CC thread, I will substantiate some of what you are saying later today on the other thread. (tu)

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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@Rin great post thanx
Give everything but up!

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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I still think we're missing the point here, guys. Phindi may have got us to where we are, but there are a whole team of people, including Purple Capital, working very hard to ensure that relevant information is being brought to light. We ought to be focusing on the proceedings, rather than trying to knock the people who engineered the process in the first place. If / when the Commission rules, there will be plenty of time to sling mud at whoever you choose.

It is a pity that so few people have been able to attend, but I attach an eye witness account from Steve Reid posted on the Pure Punting forum. Mr Reid may not be everyone's favourite, but even making allowances for his colourful past, his account seems factual and moreover concurs with other 3rd party reports I've received. I think it makes for interesting reading no matter which 'country' you're in.

"I have spent a few days following procedings and it is a fascinating spectacle. The records are there for all to see at www.comptrib.co.za/gold-circle-kenilworth-racing-merger . It is unfortunate that regular "confidentiality" sessions are held as these are not recorded nor was I allowed to sit in on these sessions. You will note that these sessions are blacked out in the transcripts.

The highlight for me has been the vindication that something was wrong with this proposed merger. Unlike other areas previously highlighted on SFRW and other forums, where there were clearly problematic areas in racing, there was nowhere to hide for our friends from P/GC on this issue, and boy did the skeletons start coming out of the cupboards, and we are not done by a long shot. In my very humble opinion, the testimony of Chris van Niekerk and Vidrig Thurling has mortally damaged the chances of Phumelela overturning the Commissions previous decision not to allow the merger. Some fascinating facts emerged over the last few days and I will attempt to highlight why I think P's case is shot.

Chris van Niekerk is a board member of P as well as a trustee of the Trust. Amazingly under oath he testified that he had not had sight of the merger documentation until Sunday this week. You can read into that what you will, but in my opinion it shows me that he is just rubber stamping decisions made by the policy makers on the P board. During testimony he seemed either evasive or unsure of the answers of the most elimentary of questions viz. who was funding the WC in this merger. He steadfastly claimed that Phumelela would not be putting a cent in and in fact the money was coming in from the Trust. Vidrig Thurling was a disaster for P on the stand. He seemed very unsure of himself, being this nervousness or ignorance, I cant say. His whole rationale behing merging with P was the fact that stakes could be guaranteed and improved as WC would now get 26% of the national pot should the merger succeed. In his opinion WC racing could only go to P for assistance as nobody else had the expertise. Amazingly after various meetings with Jooste, Du Plessis, Wainstein and others over the merger proposal, he claimed no knowledge of what money was needed to be loaned from P/Trust. He furthermore claimed no knowledge of the workings of the loan save to say THAT THE WESTERN CAPES ASSETS WERE BEING UTILISED AS SECURITY FOR THE DEAL. This is critical as in essence the WC assets are not being safeguarded as he presented to his members at a meeting previously. After some vigorous cross examination, and being threatened with perjury, he finally admitted that a loan was being secured through Phumelela not the Trust, with the WC property assets being used as security. In my opinion, Thurling has deliberately mislead members on this issue, and seeing that he has been mandated by his board, it is time for either a vote of no confidence by the members, or they should do the right thing and get the WC board to resign en masse. A further revelation is the fact that the entire merger agreement was structured by Phumelela AND NOT ONE SINGLE ITEM IN THEIR AGREEMENT WAS NEGOTIATED NOR ALTERED BY THE WESTERN CAPE BOARD. This speaks volumes and is clearly total capitulation. A further revelation was the fact that the agreement in essence was that 50% of the future profits made in the Western Cape would accrue for Phumelelas account....... This deal is not a short term deal to assist the WC in its moment of need, the deal is for perpetuity."



I have assurances from one of the legal teams that any and all information made available during the public portions of the hearings are public information and Mr Reid (and indeed any interested party) is freely allowed to attend and interpret proceedings as they see fit.

Having not seen the formal court transcriptions as yet, I am basing my analysis on Mr Reid's report (which as I've said, may be considered biased, but does concur with other 3rd party reports I've received).

To me the relevant points from that report are:-

"Chris van Niekerk is a board member of P as well as a trustee of the Trust. Amazingly under oath he testified that he had not had sight of the merger documentation until Sunday this week".

"He steadfastly claimed that Phumelela would not be putting a cent in and in fact the money was coming in from the Trust"
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With regard to Vidrik Thurling's testimony, the following stood out for me:-

"Amazingly after various meetings with Jooste, Du Plessis, Wainstein and others over the merger proposal, he claimed no knowledge of what money was needed to be loaned from P/Trust".

"He furthermore claimed no knowledge of the workings of the loan save to say THAT THE WESTERN CAPES ASSETS WERE BEING UTILISED AS SECURITY FOR THE DEAL".

(interesting. I'm fairly sure WC members were told that WC assets were being safeguarded).

"he finally admitted that a loan was
being secured through Phumelela not the Trust, with the WC property assets being used as security".

(this is odd and seems to contradict Mr van Niekerk's statement that Phumelela were not putting any money into the deal).

"the agreement in essence was that 50% of the future profits made in the Western Cape would accrue for Phumelelas account"

"the entire merger agreement was structured by Phumelela AND NOT ONE SINGLE ITEM IN THEIR AGREEMENT WAS NEGOTIATED NOR ALTERED BY THE WESTERN CAPE BOARD".

"The highlight for me has been the vindication that something was wrong with this proposed merger."

There are some conflicting and in some cases, directly contradictory statements there. I wouldn't like to guess at the reasons behind them, but at the very least I think we have some bona fide examples of exceptionally poor stewardship here.

Mr van Niekerk is a director of Phumelela and a trustee of the Racing Trust and he had NO knowledge whatsoever of the deal being offered to the Western Cape until last Sunday. Responsible directorship ???

I was under the impression that this deal has been discussed for over a year. We keep being told what a liability the Western Cape is. If that is true, one would think that the Racing Trust or Phum (or whoever) agreeing to step in in whatever capacity would be quite a big deal. How is it possible that someone who is both a director of Phum and a trustee on the Racing Trust can have had no knowledge of any of the dealings until last Sunday? How can that possibly be construed as constructive or responsible directorship ???

And if the statement is true that Mr van Niekerk had no knowledge of the proposed transaction until last Sunday, then what purpose does he serve on the boards of either of those two august institutions? When exactly was he going to take an interest? And more importantly, if a high ranking, long standing board and trustee member has no knowledge of it, it surely begs the question who has been constructing / managing the transaction then?

I'm sorry. I consider myself a fairly reasonable person, but given Mr van Niekerk's professional standing and his long association and involvement in racing, his statements do not make any sense to me whatsoever.

There is one silver lining though - he did possess enough knowledge to state that none of the funding was coming from Phumelela. Which implies that he must have attended one or two meetings or at least had sight of some board meeting minutes somewhere along the line. So that's a relief.

OK.

Now we move on to Mr Thurling's testimony.

Having also been involved in 'negotiations' for over a year now, he had no knowledge of where the funding was coming from for the deal. This is a ridiculous statement from someone who is a professional businessman. Pick & Pay would not sell me a can of beans if I did not have the money to pay for it. Better still, the WC board have declared Purple Capital an unviable prospect because they refuse to disclose who their backers are. Yet the WC have apparently happily entered into an agreement with no knowledge of any funding of the deal either! Responsible directorship???

Mr Thurling seems to be aware that the WC would be entering into a loan agreement, but says he has no knowledge of the terms of this agreement. Responsible directorship???

Holy heck. I've only ever borrowed money to purchase relatively small things like vehicles and property, but even I know that if someone lends you money, there are terms and conditions attached. I usually like to know what those are before I sign on the dotted line so that I can do boring things like, oh I don't know, budget and plan ahead. But perhaps I'm odd that way.

Having assured members that the WC assets were not in any way vulnerable, it seems that they are in fact being used as collateral for a deal (the terms and conditions of which our stewards have not taken much trouble to familiarize themselves with). Responsible directorship???

Mr Thurling then remembers that the money for the deal is in fact (contrary to Mr van Niekerk's statement) coming from Phumelela. How odd. According to Mr Reid's report, Mr van Niekerk told the panel under oath that the money was not coming from Phumelela. But perhaps our witness got it wrong. Either way, it would be interesting to find out how two gentlemen involved in the transaction at apparently senior level can have such polar opposite understandings of how things are constructed.

Mr Thurling states that Phumelela would stand to take 50% of any WC profits. It is an interesting point as to the best of my knowledge, that has not been communicated to WC members. But as we're constantly told, the WC is such a bad business proposition that it is never likely to make any profit. Still, one would have thought it might be worth mentioning.

Lastly, not a single item in the transaction was negotiated or altered by the WC board. Responsible directorship ???

I shall be most interested to read the formal court transcripts as there appear to be some very odd statements being bandied about.

Guys - let's not fiddle while Rome burns. These are faaaaaaaaaaaaaar more important discussion points than the history between Mr Freeman and Ms Kema.

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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With apologies - I posted without having read RIN's excellent contribution.

Great post - thank you.

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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Good posts and contributions (tu)

Thank you

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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oops, the orgy is being exposed

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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Great read... I'm feeling very nervous for the guys from the WC

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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re Zsuzsanna04

You always sort the wheat from the chaff exceptionally well. Really good stuff. Remind me never to get into a debate with you.

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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I'm sad, sad, sad to see a company that was built up by a family member of mine being run into the ground by complete and utter miscreants.

I hope they force this sale unlawful, unethical and every other "un" I can think of. Phumelela should be delisted and taken private. This should happen poste haste and all the numbties who are running the show currently should be shown the door. Get some racing people in there, sell off the tracks to people who want to make a success of the deal.....Phumelela should concentrate on what it was designed originally to do.....RUN THE TOTE. They still have their soccer and rugby bets as well as their international racing to sell. Why get involved in the holding of assets which they clearly cannot manage or afford to keep?

Racing is in dire need of some leadership and people who can make it happen.

Please Mrs. O, the Slacks, Jooste I don't care who. Buy the TOTE and lets make South African racing great again!!!

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Re: Re: John Freeman on Phindi Kema

12 years 8 months ago
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For your abc page from Phindi
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To: john@johnfreeman.co.za
Subject: Response from Phindi Kema

Dear John,

I am pleased that I am making direct contact with you, since you have made the effort to write about me. If I did not know you, I would have thought it was some hysterical female! You can be a very testy Stallion when you choose to be, I have forgotten that testosterone rubs off!

For the record, I am not applying for a job here and your opinion of myself does not matter to me as I do not need your validation. I am happy with who I am and I do not need permission from you to do what I am doing.

Why are you seeking so much attention at my expense... instead of doing something to improve the industry that is putting food on your table. Use your imagination constructively!

Many thanks and best wishes,

Phindi Kema

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