South African Racing and Betfair as ONE?

Betfair Customer Services 26 Jun 18:51


We have been reviewing our South African racing product and as a result we will be making changes which we hope will enhance the product offering.

They are as follows:

• We will be adding tote markets on South African racing from early July. This will enable customers to bet into the local pools hosted in South Africa.

• In about a month’s time we will be adding live streaming of South African racing to Betfair, which will cover all South African meetings.

• We will also add relevant form content for use by our customers.

Please also note that, from the end of June, we will stop offering South African races in-play, due to an apparent lack of general interest.

We welcome all customer feedback on our South African racing product and will keep our offering under review.

How is it that they can offer South African markets to their European customer base, but we as South Africans are not permitted to use it?

one of many, many questions.

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more interesting news from betfair:


After some positive customer feedback we have decided to also add place markets for South African Racing, from Saturday 11th July. Place terms will be determined as follows;

• 3-7 runner race - TWO to be placed

• 8-15 runner race - THREE to be placed

• 16 or more runner race (Hcap AND non-Hcap) - FOUR to be placed

Reserves will NOT be included when calculating. For further information please see the Betfair Rules and Regulations and Market Information for the individual markets.

The markets will be offered on a trial basis as we constantly look to review the RSA racing product.

sadly, as South African punters we can only watch
our fellow punters up north enjoying the fruits

Who doesnt wanna allow RSA citizens to bet on betfair????

www.ngb.org.za/home.asp?pid=35

This page at the NGB site looks relevant:
www.ngb.org.za/home.asp?pid=14

A quote from notice 0022007:

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The only legal forms of gambling in South Africa are:
1) Betting/wagering with licensed operators;
2) Online betting or wagering is permitted with licensed operators*;
3) Bingo conducted by licensed operators conducted by licensed
operators within the Republic;
4) Casino land based gambling conducted by licensed operators within the
Republic;
5) Limited payout machines conducted by licensed operators.
*In terms of the Exchange Control Rules, it is illegal for South African
residents to participate in foreign lotteries, sweepstakes and betting
organizations.

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A quote from notice 0012007:

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THE NHA HAS AN MOU WITH BETFAIR IN TERMS OF WHICH THE
INTEREST IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER PEOPLE LICENSED BY THE NHA
ARE USING BETFAIR IN CONTRAVENTION OF NHA RULES.

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From the NHA rules:

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72.4 BETTING EXCHANGES
(Amended 19/03/2004)
72.4.1 An OWNER, TRAINER, STABLE EMPLOYEE or their respective SPOUSES
shall not, directly or indirectly, place a bet with a Betting Exchange in respect
of a HORSE owned, trained or cared for by such OWNER, TRAINER and/or
STABLE EMPLOYEE other than that such HORSE will win the RACE in
which it is to participate.
(Amended 19/03/2004)
72.4.2 It shall be an offence for any PERSON to act in contravention of RULE 72.4.1.

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Oh, and just a reminder, the last thread about Betfair was closed with this post by Scotia:

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Interesting debate gents, however Betfair is illegal in S.A. and to encourage debate is not viewed lightly by SA regulators.

We have received communication to this effect.

We have no choice but to close this thread to further debate.

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Doubt that will be the case for the ordinary punter now Phumelela are plugging the advanatges of Betfair in their Press Releases (on the other thread). Maybe times are changing Sabre

Hypocritical in the extreme it would seem?

Scotia,Sabre's post has no date and I cannot recall this thread, it must have been a while back. Could you confirm what the sequence of events were leading you to close the thread and when this happened please.

Then could we ask Magaret to please ask for some kind of clarity as to where we all stand with Betfair. Also interesting would be to see what BF contribute and where the money will go.

If I was a bookie and in particular Interbet I should be very concerned.

Thank you