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8 years 11 months agodavetheflower wrote:PeterD wrote: 52% of UK voters are economic morons
Is that right Peter?
Would you care to explain to this moron,what your cristal ball is telling you.
Shares,footsie and the pound were always going to dive initially.Lets see what it's like in a month or two.
One thing it shows,our PM or soon to be ex PM didn't have a clue what us morons were thinking about the future. Im going to lose financially for a time,but I will suffer that gladly.
There is not a single study by any economic expert that says you will be better off in 10 years. You are taking the word of the likes of Boris saying 'we'll be better in the long run' with no actual academic proof to back it up. Dont worry about academic facts though, the campaign is endorsed by Trump, Farage, katie Hopkins, the UKIP, BNP, Britain First and pretty much every fascist organisation on earth. Who knows he could be right but 52% of the population have just voted in blind hope. Actually I take that last sentence back, a fair portion of the 52% voted based on racist and xenophobic tenancies towards immigrants.
The 18-24 bracket voted heavily to remain and they are the ones going to have to live with the lottery ticket the generation above just bought them. Sometimes you win the lotto but most of the time you don't.
You are right though that the PM had no idea, the whole world actually had no idea that the British had such a large portion of unhappy people who would buy into a Trump like campaign based on anti-immigration.
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8 years 11 months agoPeterD wrote: 52% of UK voters are economic morons
The profile of the in/out voters suggest that perhaps the 52% felt that they were getting no benefit from the economy that Cameron talked about protecting...........and they sent him that message!
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8 years 11 months agoThe missing link wrote:davetheflower wrote:PeterD wrote: 52% of UK voters are economic morons
Is that right Peter?
Would you care to explain to this moron,what your cristal ball is telling you.
Shares,footsie and the pound were always going to dive initially.Lets see what it's like in a month or two.
One thing it shows,our PM or soon to be ex PM didn't have a clue what us morons were thinking about the future. Im going to lose financially for a time,but I will suffer that gladly.
There is not a single study by any economic expert that says you will be better off in 10 years. You are taking the word of the likes of Boris saying 'we'll be better in the long run' with no actual academic proof to back it up. Dont worry about academic facts though, the campaign is endorsed by Trump, Farage, katie Hopkins, the UKIP, BNP, Britain First and pretty much every fascist organisation on earth. Who knows he could be right but 52% of the population have just voted in blind hope. Actually I take that last sentence back, a fair portion of the 52% voted based on racist and xenophobic tenancies towards immigrants.
The 18-24 bracket voted heavily to remain and they are the ones going to have to live with the lottery ticket the generation above just bought them. Sometimes you win the lotto but most of the time you don't.
You are right though that the PM had no idea, the whole world actually had no idea that the British had such a large portion of unhappy people who would buy into a Trump like campaign based on anti-immigration.
So it's Racist Morons now.
You've dug out the undesirables there ML,well done.The remain campaign was endorsed by
Anjem Choudray,Rashid Rauf and most of the Liberal dickheads who cover their faces at Antifa rallies.They wanted to remain because the EU is so full of red tape and bluster,it takes an eternity to deport the shitheads.
You forgot to mention Ian Botham,Michael Caine,Sol Campbell(surely not racist),John Cleese,Bryan Adams,Roger Daltrey and more,all voted LEAVE.
Your missing the point about politics,I don't want to be governed by UNELECTED politicians in Brussels who don't know their arse from their elbow.
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I do not live in the UK. I was going to be relocated to London at year end but Brussels, Frankfurt or Dublin is more likely now as London is not the strategic financial center it was last week. Don't even want to elaborate on the reprocussions of this on your country so I'll move on.
Firstly the names you mentioned are largely not politicians and secondly I am not saying all who voted leave are racists but it is undeniable which way racists voted. Just like South Africa immigrants are now being attacked in England and told to 'go home' and this is a direct result of the anti-immigration sentiments of the leave campaign.
The issues of bureaucracy and national sovereignty were oversimplied in the leave campaign and twisted in such a way that lack of education had the greatest correlation with leave voters than any other determinant. Very little is going to change contrary to what people have been made to believe. The NHS isn't guaranteed additional funding, trade can only get worse(at best stay the same), immigration won't change for the next 2 years and after that it is going to hurt the British population wanting to emigrate as much as people who want to immigrate to England, the financial markets will not stabilize for years and there is no guarantee that democracy is going to be better for England than bureaucracy. An irrational decision was made and unless you have actually facts(Boris Johnson is not an economist btw) that can be backed up as to how this is going to progress your country then you sir have made a mistake.
Firstly the names you mentioned are largely not politicians and secondly I am not saying all who voted leave are racists but it is undeniable which way racists voted. Just like South Africa immigrants are now being attacked in England and told to 'go home' and this is a direct result of the anti-immigration sentiments of the leave campaign.
The issues of bureaucracy and national sovereignty were oversimplied in the leave campaign and twisted in such a way that lack of education had the greatest correlation with leave voters than any other determinant. Very little is going to change contrary to what people have been made to believe. The NHS isn't guaranteed additional funding, trade can only get worse(at best stay the same), immigration won't change for the next 2 years and after that it is going to hurt the British population wanting to emigrate as much as people who want to immigrate to England, the financial markets will not stabilize for years and there is no guarantee that democracy is going to be better for England than bureaucracy. An irrational decision was made and unless you have actually facts(Boris Johnson is not an economist btw) that can be backed up as to how this is going to progress your country then you sir have made a mistake.
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1.Please supply me the proof that South Africans are being attacked in the UK.
I find that very hard to believe.We must be one of the most tolerant countries on the globe.
Instead of spreading shit,why don't you ask some of the posters who are SA and live in the UK if they have been attacked..Easy lives here,can't think hes been attacked.
2.Please tell me what repercussions you are talking about instead of insulating we are facing Armageddon.
3. Katie Hopkins isn't a politician.
4.You say it's undeniable that racists voted to leave,there is a difference between a racist and a voter who is sick of financial refugees coming over and sponging of hard working tax payers.
But let's be honest.the " Race Card " is getting so over used by people who have nothing else to clutch onto that it's now just a case of " not that again"
5.You are insinuating the leave voters are not very well educated,I beg to differ.I think you really should start looking at the educational and literacy tables and worry about your own countries position in the world.
Good luck in Frankfurt,if you need any help with the language,im available.
I find that very hard to believe.We must be one of the most tolerant countries on the globe.
Instead of spreading shit,why don't you ask some of the posters who are SA and live in the UK if they have been attacked..Easy lives here,can't think hes been attacked.
2.Please tell me what repercussions you are talking about instead of insulating we are facing Armageddon.
3. Katie Hopkins isn't a politician.
4.You say it's undeniable that racists voted to leave,there is a difference between a racist and a voter who is sick of financial refugees coming over and sponging of hard working tax payers.
But let's be honest.the " Race Card " is getting so over used by people who have nothing else to clutch onto that it's now just a case of " not that again"
5.You are insinuating the leave voters are not very well educated,I beg to differ.I think you really should start looking at the educational and literacy tables and worry about your own countries position in the world.
Good luck in Frankfurt,if you need any help with the language,im available.
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Had i been able to vote the OUT would have been my vote.
Some hard facts about the EU the operation was a success BUT the patient died. Hers why:
1: Of course Scotland want to remain, a barrel of oil is worth bugger all
2: Of course The iberic countries want in, they have been POOR and LAZY for centuries and the EU and Euro gave and gives them plenty moola every month
3: Next will be Germany/France and Holland after all they gonna have to pay the Shortfall now created by Britain leaving there is NO stopping the domino effect
4: Even the poorest of the poor and deprived travel though ALL these countries to come to the UK, not because of benefits BUT because there are JOBS here. Unlike in Greece/Portugal/Spain
5: Had this been the other way "should Britain join the EU?" then the result would have been 90/10 in favour or NO the reason it was so close was a lot of bullshit was spun and not enough facts---facts like some UK farmers are paid NOT to farm so that EU farmers can be productive….absurd situation
6: BY NOT invoking article 50 David Cameron (believes in the EU) but now that the vote was OUT wants the BEST for the UK and the BEST is the domino effect to start. Like he said we can survive outside the EU. When the other nett contributors announce referendums our situation becomes more powerful. After all money talks and bullshit walks. The Germans might believe in the EU but there is no way Deutche Bank would rather do business in Athens than in London
7: Labour is imploding this will encourage OUT parties in other countries to rally
8: UKIP is now DEAD, Nigel Fuckface Farage has nothing left to fight for. He got what he wanted but never really thought it through.
We want to work, not 35 hours a week but as much as we want. We want to be productive, manhana is NOT an option. 2 hour lunches are not the way forward, 95% of students going to university and none to plumbing school is not an option. Europe was a failure before , don't you remember the 50 000 lire note? Or the escudo? Thise countries are amazing to go on holiday but they just don't graft….and because we do why should we continue to pay IN?
Some hard facts about the EU the operation was a success BUT the patient died. Hers why:
1: Of course Scotland want to remain, a barrel of oil is worth bugger all
2: Of course The iberic countries want in, they have been POOR and LAZY for centuries and the EU and Euro gave and gives them plenty moola every month
3: Next will be Germany/France and Holland after all they gonna have to pay the Shortfall now created by Britain leaving there is NO stopping the domino effect
4: Even the poorest of the poor and deprived travel though ALL these countries to come to the UK, not because of benefits BUT because there are JOBS here. Unlike in Greece/Portugal/Spain
5: Had this been the other way "should Britain join the EU?" then the result would have been 90/10 in favour or NO the reason it was so close was a lot of bullshit was spun and not enough facts---facts like some UK farmers are paid NOT to farm so that EU farmers can be productive….absurd situation
6: BY NOT invoking article 50 David Cameron (believes in the EU) but now that the vote was OUT wants the BEST for the UK and the BEST is the domino effect to start. Like he said we can survive outside the EU. When the other nett contributors announce referendums our situation becomes more powerful. After all money talks and bullshit walks. The Germans might believe in the EU but there is no way Deutche Bank would rather do business in Athens than in London
7: Labour is imploding this will encourage OUT parties in other countries to rally
8: UKIP is now DEAD, Nigel Fuckface Farage has nothing left to fight for. He got what he wanted but never really thought it through.
We want to work, not 35 hours a week but as much as we want. We want to be productive, manhana is NOT an option. 2 hour lunches are not the way forward, 95% of students going to university and none to plumbing school is not an option. Europe was a failure before , don't you remember the 50 000 lire note? Or the escudo? Thise countries are amazing to go on holiday but they just don't graft….and because we do why should we continue to pay IN?
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8 years 11 months ago
1) Forgive my grammar, there is meant to be a comma inbetween South Africa and immigrants or alternately the word 'in' before South Africa
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-...ferendum-has-wrought
2) If you lose the position of financial hub of Europe the country will be in recession for many many years and will lose its position as a global powerhouse. Your treasury also reckons 830000 people are losing their jobs which is a small price to pay as long as it's not yours.
3) correct, you can omit her name from my message
4) refer to article in point 1 and numerous other articles if you have a look
5) the correlation is a fact and I am not insinuating that, I am stating it. If you have data that disagrees with the studies that have been released please correct me with those.
Side note: the potential reasons for Boris and the boys backtracking on the early activation of article 50 are pretty interesting. Makes you wonder why they waiting for something they worked so hard to archieve.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-...ferendum-has-wrought
2) If you lose the position of financial hub of Europe the country will be in recession for many many years and will lose its position as a global powerhouse. Your treasury also reckons 830000 people are losing their jobs which is a small price to pay as long as it's not yours.
3) correct, you can omit her name from my message
4) refer to article in point 1 and numerous other articles if you have a look
5) the correlation is a fact and I am not insinuating that, I am stating it. If you have data that disagrees with the studies that have been released please correct me with those.
Side note: the potential reasons for Boris and the boys backtracking on the early activation of article 50 are pretty interesting. Makes you wonder why they waiting for something they worked so hard to archieve.
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@easy. The dice could very well roll how you said but you are relying on the fact that a domino effect will occur yet there are numerous other ways this could end. There are other theories that David Cameron gave the big f*ck you to the leave campaign and told them to sort out their own mess. Britain is not North Korea, it needs the EU to survive whether it's in or out and this could well turn into a 'who blinks first contest'. The EU have already told Britain to activate article 50 twice now. They playing a very dangerous game if they hoping the dominos fall before they are forced to activate.
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All of that might well be true BUT a few more facts
Britain does 10% of its foreign trade with the EU
Jose Mourihno is not about to be told to get a visa
Even if doomsday happens the wheels set in motion by Mrs Thatcher of self determination and success will prevail long after the drachma and the lire fail again.
All of that might well be true BUT a few more facts
Britain does 10% of its foreign trade with the EU
Jose Mourihno is not about to be told to get a visa
Even if doomsday happens the wheels set in motion by Mrs Thatcher of self determination and success will prevail long after the drachma and the lire fail again.
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and some italians see the truth
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8 years 11 months ago
Here's your average Remain voter.
On a Friday,not working?Probably living in a squat in London,who call all Leave voters Racist.
Bit of a common theme there. Lefty,spunging twats who don't like working.
So ashamed of themselves,they wear masks in case they get caught writing graffiti.
The best thing for me,apart from leaving the failing European Union,is watching these pricks crying and taking defeat so badly.
On a Friday,not working?Probably living in a squat in London,who call all Leave voters Racist.
Bit of a common theme there. Lefty,spunging twats who don't like working.
So ashamed of themselves,they wear masks in case they get caught writing graffiti.
The best thing for me,apart from leaving the failing European Union,is watching these pricks crying and taking defeat so badly.
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