BettingWorld 1900 - Drier first and third

Bob Brogan wrote: So did Brett Crawford win the Cape Derby and Flying Championship this season or Mike De Kock ?

rob faux wrote: Getting on to the important aspect of the race ,has anybody been swayed towards a horse they think likely to win,from that race, for the July.
I personally never put anything higher up my list, on the strength of that race!
Will the winner's new rating even guarantee a run? (up to a 101 in my book)

PeterD wrote: When I looked at this race on Friday, I decided that it was a minefield for punters, and could not find anything to punt.
Four lengths covered the first 10 home. There were a couple of hard luck stories - most notably Helderberg Blue was given a shocker of a ride from favourable draw 3, sitting at the back of the field. The time seemed ok, although with only 3 turf races, hard to judge how the course was running. (will the promised sectional timing ever be delivered??).
Only one 3 yo in the race- the enigmatic Jayyed, ran 4 L back, and hence a few lb below his 101, so this race does not help much to calibrate the 3yo ratings, except to say they can't be far out.
The winner may now go up to a MR 100. Traditionally the winner of this race has been given a July ticket. Dynastic Power will improve over further, but would be a very unlikely July winner- any 4yo rated under 106 will be under sufferance assuming Futura runs.
For the rest, Power King and Punta Arenas confirmed their well- being, and ran to their ratings, but are marginal candidates and remain long shots to get a run.
The only runner here in the top 20 was Helderberg Blue, and this run won't help his chances of getting in.
His Met rating of 110 is looking too high.
To summarize- I won't add anything from this race to the short list of possible 2015 July winners.

Sharky wrote: A lot that is being said here is destructive bull!

Before I start, I'm not a client, fan, family or friend of Stan Elley but this thread is ridiculous!!!!

Firstly, Dynastic Power and Power King ran to form.

Secondly, Stan has always done well in KZN and WC with his limited string and has done really well with the likes of Punta Arenas and Red Badge plus others in the past with or without any help and a limited string as most smaller trainers.

Thirdly, and most importantly, this Drier help thing really sux. Yes Drier has helped under Stans instruction and however they work it but remember, Drier also helped and got Jackson to win under Brett Crawford who has more than proved he can also train the big ones. This is no different to the Jackson case to the Dynastic Power thing. Another thing, everyone said Humby and Soma helped Lafferty win his big races in CPT and JNB but sure enough Lafferty proved in KZN winning a Gr1 without them and in JNB that he can also do it and if you ask me, he is better than both of the other two in general it that a matter of opinion, the rest are facts. Alesh Naidoo was doing well with Lafferty and jumped over to the bigger Laird and hasn't really done any better or at least I don't see a Gr1 as Lafferty got for him!
Trevor Brown has been looking after Mubtaahij so when he wins do you all say it wasn't De Kock, it was Brown???
Please!!!!!! Tarry often uses Sands in CPT and when he wins I don't read threads saying it was Sands and not Tarry...
A couple years ago, Ramsden won November Handicap with a horse that was left with De Kock and no one said it wasn't Ramsden but De Kock.. These things happen and it clearly works well between trainers regarding logistics etc and between them they are all capable of making it happen.

I must give all those trainers the benefit and credit of thinking for the horse and owner and making the right decision for them so that the horse can reach its full ability. Well done to them all especially Stan Elley and connections last night.

rob faux wrote: Muhti,when any formless horses go to Uncle Albie and they start finding the winners box ,what DO you call it.................... luck...............WTF.