BettingWorld 1900 - Drier first and third

Its common knowledge that Stan Elleys two runners, who placed first and third in the BW 1900 have been with Drier for the last couple months. My estimate is that he's improved both by2 to 4 lengths each........and yet not a word of acknowledgment or thanks from Elley or the other owner in the interviews. Not good enough. Under Drier Punta Arenas could win the July, but not under Elley, sadly

Why would you say they have improved ?

Is that a trick question Bob?
Since both of them drew wide, ran wide, and had not a single person in the BW blog tip either to win based on previous form, and yet they ran first and third.....I would conclude that they have run well above expectations......ie improved
Your summary in the BW field blog says as follows
"Stan Elley fields Punta Arenas and yet another son of Dynasty, Dynastic Power. The former is a gallant six-year-old battler that can certainly run into the money at his best while Dynastic Power has shown a fair degree of ability with placings in his last four starts over distances from 1 400m to 2 800m". So in your words, the horse with 'fair ability" drawn 12 won, and the horse drawn 17 who ran 5 wide up the greyville hill before the straight finished a fast finishing third 'could run into the money, at best'
If they hadn't improved, dont you think the public would have rated them with win chances?

I think they both ran to their best form - not necessarily improved, but definitely tuned to run their best (when most of us probably expected both to need their first runs in KZN for the season) - and for that surely the 'caretaker' trainer (no matter who) deserves a mention ...... :huh:

stuntman wrote: Its common knowledge that Stan Elleys two runners, who placed first and third in the BW 1900 have been with Drier for the last couple months. My estimate is that he's improved both by2 to 4 lengths each........and yet not a word of acknowledgment or thanks from Elley or the other owner in the interviews. Not good enough. Under Drier Punta Arenas could win the July, but not under Elley, sadly

Well said..........like it or not , some stables are better at getting the best out of horses.....an analysis of patterns,quickly shows that in Natal (as this is the relevance here), Drier, Howells & van Zyl are good examples.

I`m sure Stan did not intentionally forget to mention Mr Drier`s name as the two are great pals.Think the occasion was a bit overwhelming for Stan as it was indeed a great training feat,whether done with the assistance of Mr Drier or not.Congrats Stan.Another Kaapie clean-up at Greyville.1st,2nd,3rd ,4th 5th the rest still to come.

definitely not common knowledge - if we knew they were in Driers care obviously would have had a closer look im sure most would have- agree with clanners poor taste to not give Uncle Den a mention - the maestro

My statement is that he would not have won if MJ Byleveld rode a better race on Power King

PeeKay wrote: My statement is that he would not have won if MJ Byleveld rode a better race on Power King

On their runs in the Cape winter last year, Power King actually ran an excellent race to get as close to DP at the weights :huh:

A lot that is being said here is destructive bull!

Before I start, I'm not a client, fan, family or friend of Stan Elley but this thread is ridiculous!!!!

Firstly, Dynastic Power and Power King ran to form.

Secondly, Stan has always done well in KZN and WC with his limited string and has done really well with the likes of Punta Arenas and Red Badge plus others in the past with or without any help and a limited string as most smaller trainers.

Thirdly, and most importantly, this Drier help thing really sux. Yes Drier has helped under Stans instruction and however they work it but remember, Drier also helped and got Jackson to win under Brett Crawford who has more than proved he can also train the big ones. This is no different to the Jackson case to the Dynastic Power thing. Another thing, everyone said Humby and Soma helped Lafferty win his big races in CPT and JNB but sure enough Lafferty proved in KZN winning a Gr1 without them and in JNB that he can also do it and if you ask me, he is better than both of the other two in general it that a matter of opinion, the rest are facts. Alesh Naidoo was doing well with Lafferty and jumped over to the bigger Laird and hasn't really done any better or at least I don't see a Gr1 as Lafferty got for him!
Trevor Brown has been looking after Mubtaahij so when he wins do you all say it wasn't De Kock, it was Brown???
Please!!!!!! Tarry often uses Sands in CPT and when he wins I don't read threads saying it was Sands and not Tarry...
A couple years ago, Ramsden won November Handicap with a horse that was left with De Kock and no one said it wasn't Ramsden but De Kock.. These things happen and it clearly works well between trainers regarding logistics etc and between them they are all capable of making it happen.

I must give all those trainers the benefit and credit of thinking for the horse and owner and making the right decision for them so that the horse can reach its full ability. Well done to them all especially Stan Elley and connections last night.

So what you are saying is that it is the horses ability and not the Trainers as none have improved with another trainer. Funny some people seem to think that it is the human element that has more affect on the result than the horses ability. I am not one of them. :lol:

So did Brett Crawford win the Cape Derby and Flying Championship this season or Mike De Kock ?