Raging Princess Race review

Over the Air wrote: Tipster with the greatest of respect why should he stipes stand back when a jockey says he wants to object? Their job is to police racing not to wait to see if anyone else wants to object before them. In my opinion, should what you say be true, the answer should have been "we have seen the interference and are objecting - stand in the queue!"

rob faux wrote:

Over the Air wrote: Tipster with the greatest of respect why should he stipes stand back when a jockey says he wants to object? Their job is to police racing not to wait to see if anyone else wants to object before them. In my opinion, should what you say be true, the answer should have been "we have seen the interference and are objecting - stand in the queue!"

Exactly..........any qualified stipe worth his position should be calling for a race review before the horses have even been pulled up.............what exactly are they waiting for unless they don't trust their own judgement?

rob faux wrote:

Over the Air wrote: Tipster with the greatest of respect why should he stipes stand back when a jockey says he wants to object? Their job is to police racing not to wait to see if anyone else wants to object before them. In my opinion, should what you say be true, the answer should have been "we have seen the interference and are objecting - stand in the queue!"

Exactly..........any qualified stipe worth his position should be calling for a race review before the horses have even been pulled up.............what exactly are they waiting for unless they don't trust their own judgement?

Titch wrote: My Understanding is that the stipes view each race in running and if they see something untoward then a race review is declared and a red light flashes on the tote board...(which is why I was confused as to why the stipe was on the track after the running of the July) If they feel that an objection is warranted then the siren is sounded if not then the connections can call for a review and they too have the right to object,when the connections object a deposit is required which is forfeited should the objection be deemed frivolous..

Tipster wrote:

rob faux wrote:

Over the Air wrote: Tipster with the greatest of respect why should he stipes stand back when a jockey says he wants to object? Their job is to police racing not to wait to see if anyone else wants to object before them. In my opinion, should what you say be true, the answer should have been "we have seen the interference and are objecting - stand in the queue!"

Exactly..........any qualified stipe worth his position should be calling for a race review before the horses have even been pulled up.............what exactly are they waiting for unless they don't trust their own judgement?

if you look at OTA's first post he asked why they hadn't objected before they had pulled up and asked why they hadn't objected in the July - big difference between a race review and an objection - I'm sure the race review was called for immediately in the July.

rob faux wrote:

Tipster wrote:

rob faux wrote:

Over the Air wrote: Tipster with the greatest of respect why should he stipes stand back when a jockey says he wants to object? Their job is to police racing not to wait to see if anyone else wants to object before them. In my opinion, should what you say be true, the answer should have been "we have seen the interference and are objecting - stand in the queue!"

Exactly..........any qualified stipe worth his position should be calling for a race review before the horses have even been pulled up.............what exactly are they waiting for unless they don't trust their own judgement?

if you look at OTA's first post he asked why they hadn't objected before they had pulled up and asked why they hadn't objected in the July - big difference between a race review and an objection - I'm sure the race review was called for immediately in the July.

Do you mean by the stipes ?

Tipster wrote:

rob faux wrote:

Tipster wrote:

rob faux wrote:

Over the Air wrote: Tipster with the greatest of respect why should he stipes stand back when a jockey says he wants to object? Their job is to police racing not to wait to see if anyone else wants to object before them. In my opinion, should what you say be true, the answer should have been "we have seen the interference and are objecting - stand in the queue!"

Exactly..........any qualified stipe worth his position should be calling for a race review before the horses have even been pulled up.............what exactly are they waiting for unless they don't trust their own judgement?

if you look at OTA's first post he asked why they hadn't objected before they had pulled up and asked why they hadn't objected in the July - big difference between a race review and an objection - I'm sure the race review was called for immediately in the July.

Do you mean by the stipes ?

Yes, the stipes cant object before a race review. Regarding the procedure could I draw the following adage: if a shop owner requires ten oranges he will place an order, but if the supplier is at his shop and has the ten oranges in his truck the order is not required. In the same way a race review is there in order to decide whether an objection is necessary so if the stipes know there is going to be an objection the race review becomes meaningless and they move straight on to the enquiry. Regarding the objection procedure the stipes can lodge the objection aftercalling for the race review but if the jockey and/or trainer are interested in seeing the race review they are given the opportunity to object and even if the stipes were going to object themselves the objection is then announced as having been lodged by jockey and/or trainer. If no race review is called jockey or trainer can call for one and then obviously the decision to object rests solely with them. Imo it is seriously pedantic to think there is anything wrong with those procedures because the end result is the same.