Vaal Sand 11/9/14

Nor even a single thankyou on such impressive ratings... A 100% strikerate for the day...

Not looked Loopy, excellent (perfect even lol) if so... well done to the computer!! but bigger well done to you, it only does what you have asked it to do

@Loopy Logic...I don't look or use the ratings but acknowledge that it is generous of you to continue to share given some of the comments passed your way some time back...

Well done and continued success...

TNaicker wrote: @Loopy Logic...I don't look or use the ratings but acknowledge that it is generous of you to continue to share given some of the comments passed your way some time back...

Well done and continued success...

LOOPY. I echo the same sentiments. I haven't looked for about a year.

Loopy I've not been punting so not checking any form sites


Well done

Englander wrote:

Frodo wrote: Well that was super impressive by Shadow Line - depending on what the handicapper does, he should be a factor in the Emerald Cup - IF he can keep his form - as he has had some disappointing efforts in the past after winning very easily 3rd run back from a rest

has to be more to it than that imo Frodo (nice call in the last btw). Anyone hear the interviews? On the last run he should have been fairly closely matched with Panjo and Capt Had. But instead he improves by 20 odd lengths at a canter and easing up? What had they been doing, feeding the horse a diet of chocolates, ice cream and cup cakes 8 times a day and washing it down with 6 pints of lager each time for 10 weeks prior to their last meeting?

perhaps the sand tracks give horses with issues another chance to show their ability (they are not necessarily sand horses ).And we must expect odd runs in respect of these problems.However if you look at his ability shown on 05-08 his facile win was no surprise

lol Colors, more than well aware of form fluctuations, problems etc but surely bud you are not suggesting that the trainer had no idea that the horse would perform to different levels on the two days? If that be true then I should walk away cos I really can't get my head round that fact. As Frodo says, that horse was super-impressive yesterday.

Englander wrote: lol Colors, more than well aware of form fluctuations, problems etc but surely bud you are not suggesting that the trainer had no idea that the horse would perform to different levels on the two days? If that be true then I should walk away cos I really can't get my head round that fact. As Frodo says, that horse was super-impressive yesterday.

What im getting at is horses go through problems so as a form reader you need to look at his best run and work from there.Some problems re occur and its difficult getting them spot on.
Even if the trainer wanted to tell where would he do that?And even if there was it would be the same as on the forum with regards who to believe/trust whatever. Besides he doesnt need to,his job is to train horses.
Shadow Line was well supported on the day.My advice would be to look at the form really well, study the betting carefully and watch them go down
Having a good memory helps

Colors. No disrespect mate but this conversation makes me think of SA stipes...

Office...

Stipe... where's that improvement come from?

Trainer... had mud in its eye last time out

Stipe... couldn't you have let people know?

Trainer... that's not my job, I'm only in it for myself and my owners, who gives a sh1t about the punters anyway? Besides, where would I tell people?

Stipe... ABC or you could phone the media perhaps?

Trainer... I can't type and my phone's broken, besides I am a very busy man, no golf for me.

Stipe... oh, I see. Difficult then. Ok, thanks for popping in anyway

Outside

Trainer... hahahahahahahahahaha


It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with reading form bud. And I am not saying the trainer actually did anything wrong here, I am simply (again) saying that without transparency in this industry you will lose clients rather than get more... In a Rush

Fact: Horses do not perform to ability each time it races

Therefore it is my opinion that: Trainers / Jockeys on instruction manipulate it to their liking based on when they want It to perform (when the money is on)

Intent: It was Kenny's ONLY RUNNER for the day and top jockey Lerena booked...

Make your own conclusions from there... Form is only a small part of the puzzle

no ability no plan

you got to love some of the shit you read on here..the best is only runner for the day that takes the cake..intent