% of winning favourites.

i am glad you are give the oportunity hilton, all the best (tu)

Seriously, Pirates has his head in the right place on many things and I have also asked why we cannot put a provisional pen reading, weather forecast, false rail etc up the pm before. We are having a breakfast with GC/Graeme Hawkins on Monday so I will ask them again. Even small things can help.

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> i am glad you are give the oportunity hilton, all
> the best (tu)


thks im going to need it

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> Seriously, Pirates has his head in the right place
> on many things and I have also asked why we cannot
> put a provisional pen reading, weather forecast,
> false rail etc up the pm before. We are having a
> breakfast with GC/Graeme Hawkins on Monday so I
> will ask them again. Even small things can help.


Spot on Craig ...........it is the attention to detail that is often the most appreciated!

Good luck Pirates

I am so happy the focus is off Cape Town racing....poor fields....lots of rain....favourites losing 6/10 with certain jocks aboard....bla bla bla....what i do know is that racing here has got a new lease of life and everyone is really positive as the changes happen.....got slated a while back for being so "pro cape racing" but the proof is in the pudding....-D

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> Seriously, Pirates has his head in the right place
> on many things and I have also asked why we cannot
> put a provisional pen reading, weather forecast,
> false rail etc up the pm before. We are having a
> breakfast with GC/Graeme Hawkins on Monday so I
> will ask them again. Even small things can help.


So Craig and Pirates ARE friends
All's well that ends well (tu)

is cape town making profits WE?

Craig,

You seem to misconstrue punters frustration as being simple negativity.

This is a punters forum.It may have trainers,jockeys etc who post on here,but at it's core it works because it is made up of punters.As we all know,if there are no punters you wouldn't have a job.

Stop treating us like children who just bitch and moan.We do bitch and moan,but that is because we are treated like shit.

Rail configurations,pen readings,jockey changes etc are all paramount to punters deciding what to back,which drives up turnovers and keeps the game healthy.

If GC continues to think that this is too tough a task to accomplish(the basics),then either new management is required or ultimately the current management will just drive the game into obscurity.

This is not about personal agendas(which you seem to think it is),but about doing what is best for the game.

How can management possibly think that providing all the relevant information is not paramount to racings survival.How can you possibly sell this as the 'brain game' when the utmost isn't done to provide the punters with what they need.

The inability to get the simple things right is truly mindboggling.

The inability to use simple common sense continues.

JAp, I am one of the only people actually in racing that bothers to come onto ABC and try and help with facts(not opinions) and inside info of what happens in racing etc. None of the others can be bothered to take the sh1t that comes with it. I have been told by the top guys , not to waste my time but I still do it for Hibs, Dave and the ones that actually appreciate it. I have to sit and read absolute rubbish sometimes under the guise of an opinion and try and justify it when I give facts. Ralph Smout was abused by another website because the reading on the day was significantly different to what he had said it was the day before so he is not going to put himself in that position again. We are working to get around those type of problems. To say I treat you all like children is extremely annoying as I do try and help. Now I know what Ralph felt like!

pirates Wrote:

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> flash kind words but iv tried down here but hit
> brick walls and resistance BUT iv been given a
> chance on a consultancy basis to try and improve
> tellytrack and of course this has been met with
> major resistance by big roleplayers but if i get
> dumped so be it...craig knows the resistance his
> fellow trainer had to my idea years ago and he
> also knows the ridiculous reason why down here we
> cant get the conditions for racing the day before
> and these are just 2 small examples but you
> dealing with ametuers so its to be expected...i
> hope i can make a difference at tellytrack even if
> it is a small one ...time will tell and hopefully
> i can concentrate at the job at hand instead of
> other peoples hatred jealousy backstabbing towards
> me

I hope I won't have to look at your mug......!!!!!!!

JAP I have a lot of sympathy with your opinions and your feelings but I don't think attacking Craig is the way forward. As he says, he comes on here and takes all the kak people want to throw... and the bottom line is Craig is not the one you really want to throw the kak at, those individuals refuse to participate. Craig is entitled to his opinions as we are to ours.

What I will say though Craig (and I use your name but I am writing in general not personally at/to you! ) is at the heart of JAP's message I think he is 100% correct. Those in "power" have to justify their actions, not just to shareholders but those who keep the game alive and punters are quite obviously paramount to keeping the game alive. JAP and I share one thing in common, we have basic common sense. And my common sense says if these people won't interact then the game will slowly continue to die as we currently know it in SA.

This twaddle that they won't come on because they don't want to take the sh1t, wtf is that all about? We all, every single one of us, have to take kak from time to time. But, I didn't see a lot of kak being thrown at Chippy when he was a clanner, I don't see any really thrown at the Shams. I don't see a lot of kak being thrown at Louis or yourself in truth, and what is thrown both of you seem to handle and give as good as you get. Plenty others on here too who post less like The Good, RS, Pat Lunn, the Scotts, WE, RP and Lenny etc etc... they don't seem to get abuse so I just don't see what these people are talking about. What happens sometimes is debate and even argument where some people don't like someone else's opinion... that is just life and happens everywhere and when it happens on ABC then generally one or two clanners move in and try to calm a situation so we can move forward. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

As punters we are entitled to have information in a timely and correct manner and you have been kind enough to offer your help in the one matter regarding going etc. But, think of it for a moment from our point of you. Hopefully, you can use your powers of persuasion and get it done in KZN and maybe influence other places. But say it is just KZN, that is three tracks out of 9 (I think!). As punters we then have to try and get the other 6 tracks to do the same. Why the hell are we doing it? Surely, someone else should have identified this years ago? And it is such a simple thing. This is the type of thing that annoys us punters so much, no-one seems to give a sh1t and that is why this cowardly avoidance of ABC is so infuriating. And it is of course only a very small example. There are a multitude of good recommendations that are made on this forum which could be of huge benefit to all concerned in the industry but all the time we just bash our heads against a brick wall and that makes us complain more and become even more negative. It is all the wrong way round. There are hugely passionate and knowledgeable racing people on here and all that passion and knowledge is just going to waste through sheer arrogant stupidity imho. My message is do all you can to get people interacting here, the racing powers, the trainers, owners, jockeys, TT etc etc and help make this forum a base for improvements because we all know there is so much that can be done to improve all aspects of the sport. And then maybe ABC can think again about this separate forum that some clanners like Rob and Louis think could help bring about a lot of changes for the good. And then the ball starts rolling...

I could go on for hours but luckily for you all, I won't lol ; ) The bottom line is... respect is earned and, by hiding from punters who could be of so much help, these people do nothing through their silence but increase the negativity and suspicion that is so rife in SA racing. And that from a Brit!!! (ok ok Bob, from an Engelsman! )

I am not checking any of that, no offence was meant to anyone so if I have worded anything badly, apologies, was not intended (tu)