July Log 4/6/13
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
naresh Wrote:
> hibernia Wrote:
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> > Naresh but would you chuck out a horse thats
> just
> > been beaten a head in a Grade1 for a pinnacle
> run?
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> The question is how far back you go on ones race
> results. Run For It has put up some good
> performances in the past with the best. That said
> if you have a 3yo running shd in a Grade 1 its
> obvious the younger horse got more scope for
> improvement or an older horse that has raced
> sparingly. Last year Seal a Grade 1 Derby winner
> never make the field but Whiteline Fever did. It
> bamboozles me how some runners get in.
Been gelded....different horse now,runs next week and will win....then we'll see what the selection panel does??????
> hibernia Wrote:
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>
> > Naresh but would you chuck out a horse thats
> just
> > been beaten a head in a Grade1 for a pinnacle
> run?
>
> The question is how far back you go on ones race
> results. Run For It has put up some good
> performances in the past with the best. That said
> if you have a 3yo running shd in a Grade 1 its
> obvious the younger horse got more scope for
> improvement or an older horse that has raced
> sparingly. Last year Seal a Grade 1 Derby winner
> never make the field but Whiteline Fever did. It
> bamboozles me how some runners get in.
Been gelded....different horse now,runs next week and will win....then we'll see what the selection panel does??????
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
This log is a load of shite.
Pomodoro - Top horse 2013 season 2 pinnacle wins. 2 grade 1 placed.
Hill 54 2013 season 2 Graded win. great run in J and B.
Heavy Metal seriously 3rd best horse?? before the president cup the best was a 4th place in a weak guineas. 2013 4 very average runs and winning a pinnacle with weights in his favor. Not a July TOP 3 horse for me.
Jackson why he is not the number 1 rated i dont know? top season so far. exclude Variety Club. he must be better than last years july run
Thunder Dance is it running???? top mare. but against colts not so much
Shogunnar 1 time winner seriously 6th best
Jet explorer mid 95 rated at best. won a very weak 1900. 1 win in 8 for 2013 season. a nice PE HANDICAPPER
Tribal dance grade 3 horse.better over further.
Vercingetorix exciting horse. Makes the July interesting. Hope he runs
Capetown Noir As above very exciting. must surely head to Dubai with DeKock. No disgrace in the two defeats. Could easily turn the form around.
Wylie Hall Not convinced he will get close again
No worries Really a two time winner i hopes not.
Cherry on the top until saturday my horse for this race. if she runs i will be with her but very disappointing on saturday past
Do you remember ??? Has had a great season probably a top 4 place finish
Whiteline fever 16th on log ??? top horse distance seems better over 1600Strydom aboard would make a difference.
Wagner should not be on this log. If he runs because of the summer cup win that is acceptable but he should be listed as an invited horse not on current form or any form should he be in this race ahead of horses below him.
Gothic 1 time winner work rider maiden no less enough said. ahead of grade one winners ????
Knock on wood.Good horse fair season. has been getting better.
Love struck biased against the trainer but much better form and credential than some above him
Seal Great season over further deserves a run.
EJET behind Gothic and no worries??? deserves a run
Punta Arenas only 22nd he is top horse. deserves a run form to Studio 54 and variety club top draw
Wild one about right
Tellina Over rated 2200 to far
Master plan Grade 1 winner?? descent enough graded form this season
Run for it if well deserves a run
King of pain no form over longer trips. but top horse deserves run
Gold Onyx about right not good enough this season
Ice machine not a july horse
Zambucca SHOULD BE A RUNNER. not rated 30th
Pomodoro - Top horse 2013 season 2 pinnacle wins. 2 grade 1 placed.
Hill 54 2013 season 2 Graded win. great run in J and B.
Heavy Metal seriously 3rd best horse?? before the president cup the best was a 4th place in a weak guineas. 2013 4 very average runs and winning a pinnacle with weights in his favor. Not a July TOP 3 horse for me.
Jackson why he is not the number 1 rated i dont know? top season so far. exclude Variety Club. he must be better than last years july run
Thunder Dance is it running???? top mare. but against colts not so much
Shogunnar 1 time winner seriously 6th best
Jet explorer mid 95 rated at best. won a very weak 1900. 1 win in 8 for 2013 season. a nice PE HANDICAPPER
Tribal dance grade 3 horse.better over further.
Vercingetorix exciting horse. Makes the July interesting. Hope he runs
Capetown Noir As above very exciting. must surely head to Dubai with DeKock. No disgrace in the two defeats. Could easily turn the form around.
Wylie Hall Not convinced he will get close again
No worries Really a two time winner i hopes not.
Cherry on the top until saturday my horse for this race. if she runs i will be with her but very disappointing on saturday past
Do you remember ??? Has had a great season probably a top 4 place finish
Whiteline fever 16th on log ??? top horse distance seems better over 1600Strydom aboard would make a difference.
Wagner should not be on this log. If he runs because of the summer cup win that is acceptable but he should be listed as an invited horse not on current form or any form should he be in this race ahead of horses below him.
Gothic 1 time winner work rider maiden no less enough said. ahead of grade one winners ????
Knock on wood.Good horse fair season. has been getting better.
Love struck biased against the trainer but much better form and credential than some above him
Seal Great season over further deserves a run.
EJET behind Gothic and no worries??? deserves a run
Punta Arenas only 22nd he is top horse. deserves a run form to Studio 54 and variety club top draw
Wild one about right
Tellina Over rated 2200 to far
Master plan Grade 1 winner?? descent enough graded form this season
Run for it if well deserves a run
King of pain no form over longer trips. but top horse deserves run
Gold Onyx about right not good enough this season
Ice machine not a july horse
Zambucca SHOULD BE A RUNNER. not rated 30th
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
All I can say it's going to be controversial, no matter who makes it in the end :

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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
Frodo Wrote:
> All I can say it's going to be controversial, no
> matter who makes it in the end :
Always controversy. A bookie should have some obscure bet on the July like, odds on a false start, odds on getting all 20 horses into the correct stalls, etc.
> All I can say it's going to be controversial, no
> matter who makes it in the end :

Always controversy. A bookie should have some obscure bet on the July like, odds on a false start, odds on getting all 20 horses into the correct stalls, etc.

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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
now i see rock cocktail is also been supplemented...maybe its time we do the same as the first world racing countries and nominate 1 week before the race and accept 4 days before to stop all this shit especially froma betting perspective and costing owners nomination money
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
pirates Wrote:
> now i see rock cocktail is also been
> supplemented...maybe its time we do the same as
> the first world racing countries and nominate 1
> week before the race and accept 4 days before to
> stop all this shit especially froma betting
> perspective and costing owners nomination money
Exactly and bookies can price up on whoever they want to and don't have to stick purely to who has been nominated.
> now i see rock cocktail is also been
> supplemented...maybe its time we do the same as
> the first world racing countries and nominate 1
> week before the race and accept 4 days before to
> stop all this shit especially froma betting
> perspective and costing owners nomination money
Exactly and bookies can price up on whoever they want to and don't have to stick purely to who has been nominated.
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
Sylvester Wrote:
> This log is a load of shite.
>
> Pomodoro - Top horse 2013 season 2 pinnacle wins.
> 2 grade 1 placed.
> Hill 54 2013 season 2 Graded win. great run in J
> and B.
> Heavy Metal seriously 3rd best horse?? before the
> president cup the best was a 4th place in a weak
> guineas. 2013 4 very average runs and winning a
> pinnacle with weights in his favor. Not a July TOP
> 3 horse for me.
> Jackson why he is not the number 1 rated i dont
> know? top season so far. exclude Variety Club. he
> must be better than last years july run
> Thunder Dance is it running???? top mare. but
> against colts not so much
> Shogunnar 1 time winner seriously 6th best
> Jet explorer mid 95 rated at best. won a very weak
> 1900. 1 win in 8 for 2013 season. a nice PE
> HANDICAPPER
> Tribal dance grade 3 horse.better over further.
> Vercingetorix exciting horse. Makes the July
> interesting. Hope he runs
> Capetown Noir As above very exciting. must surely
> head to Dubai with DeKock. No disgrace in the two
> defeats. Could easily turn the form around.
> Wylie Hall Not convinced he will get close again
> No worries Really a two time winner i hopes not.
> Cherry on the top until saturday my horse for this
> race. if she runs i will be with her but very
> disappointing on saturday past
> Do you remember ??? Has had a great season
> probably a top 4 place finish
> Whiteline fever 16th on log ??? top horse distance
> seems better over 1600Strydom aboard would make a
> difference.
> Wagner should not be on this log. If he runs
> because of the summer cup win that is acceptable
> but he should be listed as an invited horse not on
> current form or any form should he be in this race
> ahead of horses below him.
> Gothic 1 time winner work rider maiden no less
> enough said. ahead of grade one winners ????
> Knock on wood.Good horse fair season. has been
> getting better.
> Love struck biased against the trainer but much
> better form and credential than some above him
> Seal Great season over further deserves a run.
>
>
> EJET behind Gothic and no worries??? deserves a
> run
> Punta Arenas only 22nd he is top horse. deserves a
> run form to Studio 54 and variety club top draw
> Wild one about right
> Tellina Over rated 2200 to far
> Master plan Grade 1 winner?? descent enough
> graded form this season
> Run for it if well deserves a run
> King of pain no form over longer trips. but top
> horse deserves run
> Gold Onyx about right not good enough this season
> Ice machine not a july horse
> Zambucca SHOULD BE A RUNNER. not rated 30th
I agree mostly with your assessments, but not on Ice Machine - ran 2nd to Beach Beauty at level weights in the Drill Hall (in front of H54 and RFI) - so deserves a run imo
> This log is a load of shite.
>
> Pomodoro - Top horse 2013 season 2 pinnacle wins.
> 2 grade 1 placed.
> Hill 54 2013 season 2 Graded win. great run in J
> and B.
> Heavy Metal seriously 3rd best horse?? before the
> president cup the best was a 4th place in a weak
> guineas. 2013 4 very average runs and winning a
> pinnacle with weights in his favor. Not a July TOP
> 3 horse for me.
> Jackson why he is not the number 1 rated i dont
> know? top season so far. exclude Variety Club. he
> must be better than last years july run
> Thunder Dance is it running???? top mare. but
> against colts not so much
> Shogunnar 1 time winner seriously 6th best
> Jet explorer mid 95 rated at best. won a very weak
> 1900. 1 win in 8 for 2013 season. a nice PE
> HANDICAPPER
> Tribal dance grade 3 horse.better over further.
> Vercingetorix exciting horse. Makes the July
> interesting. Hope he runs
> Capetown Noir As above very exciting. must surely
> head to Dubai with DeKock. No disgrace in the two
> defeats. Could easily turn the form around.
> Wylie Hall Not convinced he will get close again
> No worries Really a two time winner i hopes not.
> Cherry on the top until saturday my horse for this
> race. if she runs i will be with her but very
> disappointing on saturday past
> Do you remember ??? Has had a great season
> probably a top 4 place finish
> Whiteline fever 16th on log ??? top horse distance
> seems better over 1600Strydom aboard would make a
> difference.
> Wagner should not be on this log. If he runs
> because of the summer cup win that is acceptable
> but he should be listed as an invited horse not on
> current form or any form should he be in this race
> ahead of horses below him.
> Gothic 1 time winner work rider maiden no less
> enough said. ahead of grade one winners ????
> Knock on wood.Good horse fair season. has been
> getting better.
> Love struck biased against the trainer but much
> better form and credential than some above him
> Seal Great season over further deserves a run.
>
>
> EJET behind Gothic and no worries??? deserves a
> run
> Punta Arenas only 22nd he is top horse. deserves a
> run form to Studio 54 and variety club top draw
> Wild one about right
> Tellina Over rated 2200 to far
> Master plan Grade 1 winner?? descent enough
> graded form this season
> Run for it if well deserves a run
> King of pain no form over longer trips. but top
> horse deserves run
> Gold Onyx about right not good enough this season
> Ice machine not a july horse
> Zambucca SHOULD BE A RUNNER. not rated 30th
I agree mostly with your assessments, but not on Ice Machine - ran 2nd to Beach Beauty at level weights in the Drill Hall (in front of H54 and RFI) - so deserves a run imo
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
White Line Fever could have got close last year if he wasnt baulked at about the 150 m mark i will take my chances on him again
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
What happens if the pinnacle plate doesn't fill????
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 2 weeks ago
the good Wrote:
> What happens if the pinnacle plate doesn't
> fill????
Then the plan backfires.
> What happens if the pinnacle plate doesn't
> fill????
Then the plan backfires.

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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 1 week ago
There has been some hectic betting changes
Hope you guys got your bets on your fancies
Hope you guys got your bets on your fancies
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Re: Re: July Log 4/6/13
12 years 1 week ago
The money is pouring onto Hill 54... Is this a big runner?
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