Jackpot Rule Change

used to be a bet in the old days at the vaal...last 6 races of the day and only the first two finishers qualified and couplings didnt apply...believe me in the old days at the vaal we used to have plenty 20 horse fields down the straight and the bipot was a great bet...wish they would go back to the old vaal course

@frodo:

Yes, did notice that.

However, that option is open should anyone not be happy.

Except for Kimberley (where I rarely play), I also think it's a possibly good change.' might revive the dead!

In my opinion this is a good change, the current jackpots don't deserve the name...

Vee Moodley just indicated that he likes bet types to be unique. The PA is different to the P6. The JP, with the new changes, is different to the P6 - aside from fewer races.

What about the P3? I've only ever tried it twice so might be a bit off on the rules, but isn't the jackpot now EXACTLY the same as the Pick 3, aside from being 4 predetermined races instead of 3 optional consecutive races?

I personally feel we have far too many options and this reduces pools.
The masses/punters like to have a go for millions, how much do you think is lost from racing to power ball, lotto carry overs, if you have R50 to spend are you going to take a pick 3 or a powerball and lotto
We have to get back to one massive kitty thats difficult to predict and get the "talk in the street" back to trying to win the BIG one

imo

Agree 100%. We need that one bet that Rob talks about, the one that will pay millions.

Reportedly this All-to-come bet has boosted win/place pools dramatically. Is it actually working?
I still don't see why people take it on the tote, rather than a fixed odds bet with the bookies. They just don't know any better? Tote is easier?

How about that UK lottery payout recently, equivalent to more than 1 BILLION rand?! :

Sabre Wrote:

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> Agree 100%. We need that one bet that Rob talks
> about, the one that will pay millions.
>
> Reportedly this All-to-come bet has boosted
> win/place pools dramatically. Is it actually
> working?
> I still don't see why people take it on the tote,
> rather than a fixed odds bet with the bookies.
> They just don't know any better? Tote is easier?
>
> How about that UK lottery payout recently,
> equivalent to more than 1 BILLION rand?! :

and over 1000 other people in UK came forward to try and claim the big prize citing they'd 'lost the winning ticket' - how do they sleep at night?!

southpaw Wrote:

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> Sabre Wrote:
> >
> > How about that UK lottery payout recently,
> > equivalent to more than 1 BILLION rand?! :
>
> and over 1000 other people in UK came forward to
> try and claim the big prize citing they'd 'lost
> the winning ticket' - how do they sleep at night?!


It was not the UK lotto it was the Euro Lotto which was won by a person buying the ticket in the UK

Sabre Wrote:

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> Vee Moodley just indicated that he likes bet types
> to be unique. The PA is different to the P6. The
> JP, with the new changes, is different to the P6 -
> aside from fewer races.
>
> What about the P3? I've only ever tried it twice
> so might be a bit off on the rules, but isn't the
> jackpot now EXACTLY the same as the Pick 3, aside
> from being 4 predetermined races instead of 3
> optional consecutive races?

Perhaps it should now be called a Pick 4 as that's what it is, and the pick 6 called the Jackpot....

Perhaps this issue highlights one of racing's biggest problems ie.what product it is trying to market.

This "new" jackpot is not new at all,just old,doing full circle.

When I started racing in the late 60's all horses ,from the same stable,were coupled for a win,in ALL forms of betting.
In respect of win bets it was the difference between tote and books(giving the choice)
a)Ever since then,the tote has been switching, between 'coupled' or 'not coupled' , in the various bets...... ie.it cannot decide on its own product!

b)There was no such thing as the 1st timer rule which was introduced much later.......are we now saying the reasons were wrong OR we can't remember why we did it?

Could be indicative as to why tote products have,in the past, not been well marketed.Maybe they never sure what their product should have been !

rob faux Wrote:

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> Perhaps this issue highlights one of racing's
> biggest problems ie.what product it is trying to
> market.
>
> This "new" jackpot is not new at all,just
> old,doing full circle.
>
> When I started racing in the late 60's all horses
> ,from the same stable,were coupled for a win,in
> ALL forms of betting.
> In respect of win bets it was the difference
> between tote and books(giving the choice)
> a)Ever since then,the tote has been switching,
> between 'coupled' or 'not coupled' , in the
> various bets...... ie.it cannot decide on its own
> product!
>
> b)There was no such thing as the 1st timer rule
> which was introduced much later.......are we now
> saying the reasons were wrong OR we can't remember
> why we did it?
>
> Could be indicative as to why tote products
> have,in the past, not been well marketed.Maybe
> they never sure what their product should have
> been !

They are just not quite sure, about which is the most effective way to fleece the gullible punters.

Will make the jackpot bet more challenging and improve payouts...I like that! The jackpot needed a bit of a pick up!