King`s Gambit

magiclips
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15 years 8 months ago

#72334

I think Barry actually said the horse is completely overrated.

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pirates
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15 years 8 months ago

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he has certainly not showed any of his south african form overseas..you only have to go onto formgrids to see how good he was..beating numerous group one winners out of sight including imbongi..

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15 years 8 months ago

#72336

all in the knees i think

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Barry Irwin
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15 years 8 months ago

#72338

He was a) overrated and b) has a case of the "kneesles"

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rob faux
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15 years 8 months ago

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He is by no means the only one...even JJ the Jetplane,when winning a weak conditions race,ran a fair bit below his BHA rating!
It just appears that SA breds not as suited to UK,as say the USA,where our homebred horses seem to perform better!

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Barry Irwin
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15 years 8 months ago

#72360

Undulating courses don't help.

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Marc Lingard
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15 years 8 months ago

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Interesting how it works out. It does seem as they our horses perform below their ratings over there, though perhaps we are also being a bit harsh just because they're not winning Gr1's.

JJ put up two excellent efforts in Gr1's. Irridescence got narrowly beaten in a Gr1, didn't she? Victory Moon ran a good race behind Falbrav. Tartan Bearer, ranked as high as 9th in the world recently, is Irish bred but is by Spectrum who stands here now.

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magiclips
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15 years 8 months ago

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Careful with using swear words like Spectrum. Lol. At the moment he seems as out of favour as you can get.

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Marc Lingard
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15 years 8 months ago

#72402

Haha, yes, another interesting situation.

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pirates
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15 years 8 months ago

#72404

i had high hopes for him but so far disapointing

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magiclips
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15 years 8 months ago

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As reflected in nose-diving prices at the sales, pirates. If you still have faith then he represents a bargain.

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Marc Lingard
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15 years 8 months ago

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Any insight as to why? He's had 6 Gr1 winners (including Golan) across Ireland, Australia and New Zealand and a bunch of Gr2/3 winners all over the place, including England and France, but nothing over here yet. He's also produced Dutch Art (2 Gr1's) as a dam-sire. Oldest crop over here are now three years old, right? Not enough time?

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