Tote manipulation

Hi all .
Did anyone notice the drastic change of tote prices after the race was run in.kenilworth for race 4&5 .
In race 4 the 12 was paying 2,20 a win .the race runs and teaser wins paying 3,80 .the 12 goes out to 6,60 'the tote win.pool went down by 12000 some change .
Race 5 the fav at 15/10 was paying 1,80 a win .race runs and the win.pool is less 9000 and the horse pays 4,00..

How does this work.and when exactly are bets still being cancelled esp these type amounts ..

Charles bronson wrote: Hi all .
Did anyone notice the drastic change of tote prices after the race was run in.kenilworth for race 4&5 .
In race 4 the 12 was paying 2,20 a win .the race runs and teaser wins paying 3,80 .the 12 goes out to 6,60 'the tote win.pool went down by 12000 some change .
Race 5 the fav at 15/10 was paying 1,80 a win .race runs and the win.pool is less 9000 and the horse pays 4,00..

How does this work.and when exactly are bets still being cancelled esp these type amounts ..

a racing manager once admitted to cancelling a 5k bet so i think it still goes on

that's why I have not had a tote bet in 18 years - and I think anybody that does is a dummy

I'll confirm what you saw. Not the first time I've seen this. Think an explanation is due.

.....frankly I'm surprised that this actually happened on a big race day....these sorts of manipulations are normally found on smaller pools in mid week venues as not to draw to much attention.....I did see this swing and added the 12 horse to certain exotics because it had attracted what was perceived as firm betting support.....then sharply reversed.....which could only be attributed to a massive bet cancellation.....and yes they are still happening dispite the so called checks and balances put into place.....but as we know these tote okes are not problem solvers....
they are the problem.... :ohmy:

.....how was the after the horses been hosed..... now in race 7 PE does the TF change from No 5 back to No2.... :huh: .....the 5 was clear fav at the jump and after the post.....went to check if I doubled up in JP and P6......now more JP tickets with 2....

....and now what has happened here.....surely I should have doubled up in the last leg of JP as I got the field including scratching of 7.... :huh:

Fairview W 14:36

Bet: JP

Race: 4

Winning Amount: 998.50

Percentage: 0+09%

Serial: 17902714309367

Runners: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9/3,7/8,10/1,2,3,4,5,6,7

.....am I exaggerating about a tote fiddle or what..... :huh: