Over dissecting form

Some times I wonder if we as "experts" don't over dissect form?
I have seen people that knows shit about racing picking winners.
so I thought that this might be a topic worth discussing.
mean we look at various factors to determine a winner,
and then along comes Polly and plays a horse because of the name etc and then wins and we land up with egg on our face because horse so and so couldn't lose because of so and so reason.
Would like to hear the clans view of this.

Totally agree. We spend hours on end sometimes trying to find a loop where others can't by analyzing form, which I think is an art and only a few punters can say they can read form the right way. When I first started looking at form, distance a horse was suited to was what I looked at, and that was it! Picked many an outsider jus looking at that, amazing to think about it

Yes DC it is true sometimes the more you look the more confused you get
I do find when I look at at a card/race I mark my first fancies, but after studying form I change my mind on some of these selections.
You won't believe how many of my first original selections then won or place at a good price

Definitely a terrible feeling seeing your original fancy run away with a race.

On the note of studying form, I think Frodo and many others here have some interesting insights on form analysis and many occasions they have been right, that's whats makes the africanbetingclan special. you have form analysis done by the experts to make our lives easier to pick a winner

Use FORMGRIDS and watch Tellytrack "Replays".

Sorry but form has to be dissected, especially when most races are handicaps. The guys that dissect form will ultimately be the long term winners . The guys that partly dissect form get lucky occasionally

DC wrote: Definitely a terrible feeling seeing your original fancy run away with a race.

On the note of studying form, I think Frodo and many others here have some interesting insights on form analysis and many occasions they have been right, that's whats makes the africanbetingclan special. you have form analysis done by the experts to make our lives easier to pick a winner

I know the feeling especially if it was a 20/1 shot

another question

Myself I don't get any tips from jockeys or trainers
but I know there are some clanners who do get info
my question is this info reliable an do you play the tips received and how often is it the right information
for instance yesterday Mr. Soma was doing the business, how many people knew about it?

and before I am shot down I am not criticizing or anything negative about it, as I was listening to the interviews I thought "I would have liked to part of that graft"
Good luck to them I hope they got the lot.

but as a form study you could not find that
as the first horse was a first timer and the second horse was first time over the distance
so the only way you would have known that the horses have ability would have been to be part of the stable.

I don't have a problem with graft whether I get it or I don't.
but what I can tell you is the blatant "misguidance" ..if there is ever such a word, that the trainer or jock gives when being interviewed prior to the race or in an earlier interview if they have won a race.
I have been on a number grafts, and the very same person who gave me the graft would say on TV that it possibly needs a run or may be green ,etc etc...but to me the word was its beating 5 and 6 times winners at home...or its working with a top division horse etc..
now if you in the loop...you shake your head and think how deceitful they are...and if you not in the loop you may ignore the horse....but what I will say...as much as they get it wrong ...whether you in it or out of the loop ...it will balance out eventually with you being right and they being right the other 50% of the time.

but I think when you know its graft ,you tend to put a little more than your usual bet,and this is the dangerous bit..you will be out the game sooner rather than later.