Great advert for Football
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Great advert for Football
17 years 1 month ago
The manner in which the Rangers players and fans took their defeat was nothing short OF admirable. Standing and applauding the opposition on their victory was magnaminous..Lets hope that the loser of next weeks Final between United and Chelsea will behave in a similar manner.
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17 years 1 month ago
I wonder how the United fans will take next weeks defeat...
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17 years 4 weeks agothis is a post on a man u forum i lurk on
You know, I remember when this city hosted the Commonwealth games, and the Champions League final, and I remember what an absolute pleasure it was walking around the city centre during them, soaking up the atmopshere and mingling with all of the visitors. Perhaps it was with some naivity I imagined it might be the same today. What I saw though was effing disgusting on every street corner, what the eff did Glasgow send, a hundred thousand incontinent retards?
As if the stench of on main shopping streets wasn't enough, the sight of armies of men standing up against high street shop doorways or even litter bins with their s out contributing to the rivers of throughout the city was. The mountains of rubbish, mostly discarded bottles and beer cans was shocking, even at 2PM, let alone as I was on my way back at 11... and eff me, what a sight it was at 11, going to town to get a bus home was a mistake. I've never seen anything like it, the fighting, the mess, the disruption... sheer insanity.
Best till last, what a vile effing bunch of people. When I first saw it I thought 'isolated incident, a few dickheads, not representitive of the whole' but unfortunately not, is everyone in Glasgow as racist and offensive as the ers occupying our streets today? I hope not, time after time, whether walking by or waiting at bus stops or outside shops, these rangers fans were hurling racist abuse at anyone who wasn't white, beer in one hand, leaking in the other... I still can't believe it. Even when I got on the number 8, which was full of rangers fans, a black couple got on and from the back of the bus they give it 'get off the bus you black s' - to a resounding cheer from every other vile stain on the bus. They had the effing audacity to come into this section saying the embarressment would be on Manchester for not welcoming them? Yeah well now we know why, and there's only one group of people who should be embarressed about tonight, and they're not mancunians
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17 years 4 weeks ago
What I meant in my post is the pictures what was shown on the TV moments after the final whistle. I did not know what was going on in the town itself.
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17 years 4 weeks ago
Cheap alcohol and leniant fines/prison sentances have a lot to do with the behaviour of some.
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17 years 3 weeks agoFrom The Sunday TimesMay 18, 2008
Rangers and their fans shatter Scottish myth
There was nothing brave or heroic about the team or the hooligans who follow them By Rod Liddle
Along with the Manchester police, two pervasive myths took a bit of a battering during Wednesday night’s Uefa Cup final between Glasgow Rangers and Zenit St Petersburg. The first was the myth of Scottish footballing obduracy and heroism against all the odds, the little team from the small but proud nation digging in and battling, often succumbing, but occasionally bringing forth a magnificent and unlikely triumph against overwhelming adversity.
You’ll be familiar with that myth, epitomised by Archie Gemmill single-handedly routing the hapless Dutch at the 1978 World Cup when, tragically, as ever, it was all too late. The commentators on Wednesday dug deep into the myth box with tales of Rangers’ “extraordinary journey against all the odds” to reach the final; presumably a similarly extraordinary journey, involving similar odds, to the one successfully undertaken by their Russkie opponents. They both reached the final having beaten the same number of mid-market opponents. I don’t know if you could consider Rangers the underdogs on Wednesday, either; it is a club with much greater home support than St Petersburg. Nor did they play with what any rational, sane person could describe as obduracy or heroism; they were witless, guileless and threatless, perhaps the most boring team to have reached a European final since the likes of Juventus and Inter Milan thrust catenaccio upon us all at the end of the 1960s. Except, in Rangers’ case, with rather less competence.
For good sectarian reasons (I don’t like Celtic) I was cheering on Rangers at first, but switched allegiance midway through the first half when it became apparent that they had not the slightest intention of doing anything so recherché as to attack their opponent’s penalty area. “It’s just like watching Millwall,” one of my sons said despairingly and begged to be allowed to go to bed. The Russians were fluid and confident, playing football as it is supposed to be played; they deserved their win. In fairness, this myth of little Scotland the brave is one imposed upon the sweaties, in somewhat patronising tones, from south of the border. But they have become accustomed, over the years, to buying into it wholesale. Was it ever true?
The other myth which came crashing down was that bizarre fictional construct, the cheerful, whole-hearted, peaceable - if on occasion a little inebriated, but only ever in a really nice way - Scottish football supporter. With his kilt and his can of McEwan’s Export and his blue-and-white flag and his beery, welcoming embrace for the supporter of any other nation (except maybe those from England). The Scottish fans never do the stuff England fans do; they are there to cheer on their team and bring nothing but credit to their nation, loved wherever they go. This has always struck me as being utter bilge and scarcely less patronising than all that Scotland The Brave stuff; I can remember goalposts being demolished at Wembley and the whole thing being put down to good-natured exuberance when, if England fans had been involved, it would have meant expulsion from any number of international tournaments and anguished speeches from politicians in the House of Commons. Myths are important; people cleave to them and they exert a certain force. Guinness, for example, sold an awful lot of alcohol in Europe based upon the equally inaccurate stereotype of Irish football supporters; good-natured, all of ’em, love the craic, too-rye-ay, etc. I have heard Scottish politicians smugly compare their country’s fans favourably to those who follow the English oppressor; well, not any more they won’t. Every cloud, etc.
The battle of Piccadilly Gardens was, we are told, the consequence of the actions of a “minority”. Well, maybe, but not a very small minority, to judge from the television pictures and newspaper photographs I’ve seen. The cause of the riot was put down to a giant television screen failing, so that the supporters could not watch the game. With that magnificent moronic intent familiar to anyone who has watched an enraged mob in action, the fans attacked even those engineers who arrived to try to repair the electronics. The police described the fans as acting like a “pack of wolves”, although I’ve never seen wolves behave like that. Wolves are usually possessed of pragmatic purpose, for a start. Fifteen police officers were treated for injuries and meanwhile, inside the stadium, one Russian fan was stabbed. At one point, ambulances could not enter Manchester city centre without a police escort.
Even after all this, excuses and caveats have sprung from the lips of those who should know better. This stuff about a “minority”, for a start, which is always trotted out, as if it somehow excuses the behaviour. And it’s been said that these weren’t Scottish fans, these were Rangers fans - another attempt to keep that old myth alive. You wouldn’t find Celtic supporters behaving in such a manner, we were told, forgetting that Celtic risked being kicked out of Europe when one of its cheerful, too-rye-ay supporters ran onto the pitch and attempted to clump the opposing goalkeeper. The truth is that these days football hooliganism is a truly global brand, with an energetic franchise operating in every European city, Glasgow not excepted. And if you doubt that, wait until the Dutch and Germans get together later this summer.
Hoots mon, It's all an English conspiracy. Rangers are innocent. Freeeeedom
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