Vaal Sand Thursday

Race 1 battle of arcole. . . will be my punt for today

Just Another Tipster wrote: Race 1 Battle of arcole - Race 2 Beautiful shay - Race 5 Trip tease...12/1 Trebble

just did the same treble.



Others I fancy at bigger odds

Ahlaam
Jumpstart

Not very much interest on this turf so it's btw bets

I'm of the opinion if Penstock likes the sand it wins race 1
Have noticed Hollywood have been keeping Dublin Rebel on their side, so maybe they have a few bets rolling up ?

rob faux wrote: Englander, as a matter of interest (and not suggesting you change your selections) but for future consideration, Penstock is by Jay Peg ,by Camden Park!
I was a small part of the syndicate that imported Camden Park and a criticism from the industry,at the time, was that he was by AP INDY ,one of the most successful and highest rated Sires of DIRT horses in the USA,and the belief was that his progeny would be more suited to dirt.(albeit not necessarily our kitty litter) :ohmy:

No wonder Jay Pegs progeny does well on sand.

Bob Brogan wrote: I'm of the opinion if Penstock likes the sand it wins race 1
Have noticed Hollywood have been keeping Dublin Rebel on their side, so maybe they have a few bets rolling up ?

Should love the sand but has to beat BOA.should be a good race.

Louis Goosen says the track is heavy but loads of effort went into it this week

heinrich wrote:

Bob Brogan wrote: I'm of the opinion if Penstock likes the sand it wins race 1
Have noticed Hollywood have been keeping Dublin Rebel on their side, so maybe they have a few bets rolling up ?

Should love the sand but has to beat BOA.should be a good race.

Be careful .............as Englander points out the Dam's progeny have failed on sand ,so it is a bit of Ja/Nee right now!

1-3 Dublin Rebel
2-8 Beautiful Shay
8-6 Shamal

Treble...

rob faux wrote:

heinrich wrote:

Bob Brogan wrote: I'm of the opinion if Penstock likes the sand it wins race 1
Have noticed Hollywood have been keeping Dublin Rebel on their side, so maybe they have a few bets rolling up ?

Should love the sand but has to beat BOA.should be a good race.

Be careful .............as Englander points out the Dam's progeny have failed on sand ,so it is a bit of Ja/Nee right now!

As is my experience so far...my 'research' has shown that when it comes to acting on sand...the Sire is the 'main' ingredient' lol

Well Penstock likes the surface, just not very good lol

mr hawaii wrote: 1- interesting start - PENSTOCK is up for sale soon so perhaps a win before he goes- Battle of Arcole stable hot and Colonel Rockjaw may be the surprise.
2- all grey affair - Beatiful Shay and My Silver fox
3- PERA HUR go close to winning but the winner should come from 1,2,3
4- ARKANSAS best e/w
5- 2,3,4
6 - Danielle, Katch, Torrelavega
7 - PEEP SHOW
8 - JUMPSTART strong 4 place at 15/10

Nice 1 race 1 Mr H

Just to clarify a little. Much of what I know about those taking to the sand etc is all thanks to Heinrich. I base 95% of my thoughts around the sire. In this case though, there were two siblings by Captain Al, who is a recognised sand sire, and neither seemed to go well on the sand. That is definitely not to say that by a different sire others wouldn't act well but it does not go down as a positive in my book.

Bob seems to have summed it up nicely after the event lol

Still doesn't account for the turnaround in form with winner and the other two though lol :S