Thank god for poly huh ?

Morning Louis, as it stands we race solely on the Poly from after the Scottsville meeting on the14/9 until the 24/10 while both grass tracks are having their spring treatment. I spoke to a Director yesterday as with the smaller fields, we are going to get the same horses eliminated every time. In the maidens some might not know that after you have been eliminated twice you get a preferential run the next time. My example was the 1600m mr73 on Sunday. 4/11 met each other last time out and Chill will always get in at 73 if I accept. My other horse Discourse at 59 will nearly always get eliminated. I am not the only one in this position. They will split more races where they can fill 2 full fields where they can and this will help. More race meetings will be a huge help as not all the Chill's can run every time. Somewhere I read on ABC that someone in PE had taken out statistics and more than 80% on the horses that had run on Turf and Poly ran within a length or two of there normal form.

Craig Eudey wrote: Morning Louis, as it stands we race solely on the Poly from after the Scottsville meeting on the14/9 until the 24/10 while both grass tracks are having their spring treatment. I spoke to a Director yesterday as with the smaller fields, we are going to get the same horses eliminated every time. In the maidens some might not know that after you have been eliminated twice you get a preferential run the next time. My example was the 1600m mr73 on Sunday. 4/11 met each other last time out and Chill will always get in at 73 if I accept. My other horse Discourse at 59 will nearly always get eliminated. I am not the only one in this position. They will split more races where they can fill 2 full fields where they can and this will help. More race meetings will be a huge help as not all the Chill's can run every time. Somewhere I read on ABC that someone in PE had taken out statistics and more than 80% on the horses that had run on Turf and Poly ran within a length or two of there normal form.

Well lets make Lemonade if we must - If we have many months of Poly Racing it will be a fast track to identify trends and form horses/jockeys/trainers on this surface. We would, I suppose have to wait for a year to identify these factors if the meetings were spaced out instead of the now exclusive Races.
On another point - Has anyone ever thought of having Maiden Handicaps for horses that have a Merit Rating? This would allow the weaker set a chance to win a race and move on to Handicaps

Too many Archaic owners and Trainers in South Africa

Mr H, we had a few of those qualified maidens where none over about 68 could run. Need some more. There were lesser stakes for those races.

QMHs were good to us punters

Craig Eudey wrote: Mr H, we had a few of those qualified maidens where none over about 68 could run. Need some more. There were lesser stakes for those races.

Craige I suggest a Handicap race for Maidens so those lesser lights can get a weight allowance from those with higher MR - The only restriction is you must have an MR so 4 runs or more - Might be the only time a battler gets a chance to earn stakes due to the Handicap - Many horses are not good enough to race in open Handicaps so this might give them a chance to earn or gain confidence and the better horses will prove they can give weight to others

A good idea, I will bring it up with the relevant authorities. Thank you

so far natal has hosted 4 only polytrack meetings with fields restricted to 10 to 11 runners and here are the pick 6 payouts with 2 of them being percentage carryovers...785000 269000 767000 and 256000 ..so yes the form has stood up very well don't you think?until the people most affected by the shocking state of the grass tracks stand up and view their gripes in public like Louis goosen does then very little will be done about it and patch up jobs will not help in the long run...trainers and jocks are to scared to publically air their views as they are afraid of rocking the boat and fear they will lose horses or rides ...when anton Marcus kissed the hallowed turf of clairwood racecourse for the very last time there was quite a lot of symbolism involved ..in closing for 18 months on this very forum I was lambasted for my criticism of the greyville grass track and looking back I was 100 percent correct but sadly horses have had to be put down and others never to race again and why because people are to scared to rock the boat well this leads to tragedy so talk up now or don't moan when the inevitable happens..

Pirates, 2 horses were put down and about 6/7 lame in the Vets report at and after the meeting at Clairwood on the 9th so don't make out that it was any better at all. If you read the Vets reports for the July day meeting and the reports for the meeting of the 9th at Clairwood you will see that although Greyville had 12 races and Clairwood 8, nearly twice as many horses were picked up by the vets as lame at Clairwood than Greyville.

and who is on charge of clairwood?gold circle your mates...so that's 3 grass tracks they have fcuked up then so whats next?strange that your one winner who didn't pull up to well according to you is running just 11 days later I notice threshold ..craig you have always had it in for clairwood and only you know why but the outpouring of emotion and feelings from world class trainers and jockeys over the closure and even some of your very own administrators and press people must really sting hey

Pirates, what do you know about Threshold? Why he was lame after the race, what did we do to treat him, when did he come sound again, what his program is, what else is coming up for him etc? I have not got it in for Clairwood but I hate this one eyed approach that Clairwood was the best and Summerveld is shocking and Scottsville and Greyville as well. I try and take all info and put it together and then make an informed opinion. I have never said that our grass now is good but I also don't pretend that one of our tracks are better than the other right now. The statistics show that more horses went wrong at Clairwood than Greyville. Greyville poly is the best at the moment in those stats and then Scottsville or are the Vets now in a conspiracy to make Greyville look better and Clairwood worse?

all the grass tracks are fcuked there are no exceptions who is in charge of the grass tracks?are we always going to blame the track manager or are we going to look and see who put these people in charge..its simple the fish stinks from the head the people who are in charge are ultimately responsible for the state of the racetracks ..owners spend hundreds of millions on bloodstock but without racetracks they cannot race its that simple ...the track manager is THE most important person in racing and only the best should be employed to do this job ..