Turffontein 8th June

Discuss the card below

Henry Higgins

R1- Fah Fee needed gelding, big runner
R3- Love To Sail can win on debut both 3,4 didn't beat much when winning maiden
R8- Top Command 3rd run after rest, ready to win
Best of luck to all

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If TRIP TO HEAVEN has 50% of the ability of his H/B - The Hangman - he will win race 2 - Taso The Sailor started 66-1 on debut and did not run well considering the winner won by a mile - I think he needs ground and I would not be rushing to take 17-10 about him - weak maiden and the Tarry horse's genes might see him win

Middle Earth, Burg, Sharp Design, Seal, Eurakilon, Keagan's Jet, Echuka. Vaal PA

Middle earth
Elusive shade
Sharp design
Magic smoke
Eurakilon
Norgay
Echuka

kristieN Wrote:

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> Middle Earth, Burg, Sharp Design, Seal,
> Eurakilon, Keagan's Jet, Echuka. Vaal PA


I'm confused - are you taking the Vaal PA at Turffontein

I fancy R.Simons in race 2 and 4

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> If TRIP TO HEAVEN has 50% of the ability of his
> H/B - The Hangman - he will win race 2 - Taso The
> Sailor started 66-1 on debut and did not run well
> considering the winner won by a mile - I think he
> needs ground and I would not be rushing to take
> 17-10 about him - weak maiden and the Tarry
> horse's genes might see him win

I presume Taso the Sailor is priced up favourite in this weak race because of what looked a fair debut 9.0 lengths behind feature tried Precursor, which is the supposed best form in the race.

An interesting observation though is that year older Wallingford ran the same 1000m on the same day at the Vaal just a race later, and finished in 58.49 versus Taso's 59.51. If it were a combined race, Wallingford would have finished a good 5.37 lengths ahead of Taso (i.e. only 3.21 lengths behind Precursor) :

There's only a 1 kilo difference in the weights, and even allowing for any improvement by Taso, it put's the 17/10 into scary perspective, when Wallingford who effectively beat him soundly, is priced up at 66/1 and 8/1 a place()

If you ignore Wallingford's last sand run, he must be great E/W value if the bookies have Taso the likely winner.
LJ Erasmus is also a master at dirtying the formline between surfaces, only to surprise everyone at a big price when returning back to the form surface.

As you say, if Tarry's first timer has any ability the race could be at his mercy, because Wallingford's own form is well exposed and pretty weak overall.

FazzX Wrote:

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> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > If TRIP TO HEAVEN has 50% of the ability of his
> > H/B - The Hangman - he will win race 2 - Taso
> The
> > Sailor started 66-1 on debut and did not run
> well
> > considering the winner won by a mile - I think
> he
> > needs ground and I would not be rushing to
> take
> > 17-10 about him - weak maiden and the Tarry
> > horse's genes might see him win
>
> I presume Taso the Sailor is priced up favourite
> in this weak race because of what looked a fair
> debut 9.0 lengths behind feature tried Precursor,
> which is the supposed best form in the race.
>
> An interesting observation though is that year
> older Wallingford ran the same 1000m on the same
> day at the Vaal just a race later, and finished in
> 58.49 versus Taso's 59.51. If it were a combined
> race, Wallingford would have finished a good 5.37
> lengths ahead of Taso (i.e. only 3.21 lengths
> behind Precursor) :
>
> There's only a 1 kilo difference in the weights,
> and even allowing for any improvement by Taso, it
> put's the 17/10 into scary perspective, when
> Wallingford who effectively beat him soundly, is
> priced up at 66/1 and 8/1 a place()
>
> If you ignore Wallingford's last sand run, he must
> be great E/W value if the bookies have Taso the
> likely winner.
> LJ Erasmus is also a master at dirtying the
> formline between surfaces, only to surprise
> everyone at a big price when returning back to the
> form surface.
>
> As you say, if Tarry's first timer has any ability
> the race could be at his mercy, because
> Wallingford's own form is well exposed and pretty
> weak overall.

PS. Thanks Formgrids