IS HE GUILTY?

Gerrie Nel Actual thoughts

You might very well be correct.
The trouble with Oscar is that when you have lied, you are screwed..
Gerrie is setting traps all over the place and Oscar is just going from one trap to another.
Christopher Hitchens wrote a great book titled "There is no one left to lie to" It was all about Bill Clinton.
I can see a very similar book being written about this.

I know nothing about guns so I ask out of ignorance...can a gun go off without the trigger being pulled ?? And don't guns have safety features that prevent this happening ??

I'm working at home today and this is distracting my work......throw in the towel (up to a 7 count now and fast approaching point where decisions need to be made otherwise point of no recovery for OP)...and I can then concentrate solely on my work !!!

Didn't have time to think!
So I shot the gun, am sure he said that yesterday!

I cannot see him being found anything but GUILTY with regards to the discharging of the firearm in Tasha's............

How can this guy lie about his finger being on the trigger in Tasha's and then expect the court to accept the rest of his yarn - Rather admit guilt than be caught out in a lie that even his own counsel did not test with Mangena

WHATS gERRIE WORKING ON NOW?

robgun Wrote:

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> You might very well be correct.
> The trouble with Oscar is that when you have lied,
> you are screwed..
> Gerrie is setting traps all over the place and
> Oscar is just going from one trap to another.
> Christopher Hitchens wrote a great book titled
> "There is no one left to lie to" It was all about
> Bill Clinton.
> I can see a very similar book being written about
> this.

@robgun...will get the book by Christopher Hitchens...wasn't he the editor of Vanity Fair or some other magazine ?? Very outspoken on variety of topics...died of cancer recently...

The Malcolm Gladwell book is called Blink...

TNaicker Wrote:

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> I know nothing about guns so I ask out of
> ignorance...can a gun go off without the trigger
> being pulled ?? And don't guns have safety
> features that prevent this happening ??


Wikipedia Section for GLOCK en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock#Features
Safety[edit]
Glock pistols are designed with three independent safety mechanisms to prevent accidental discharge. The system, designated "Safe Action" by Glock, consists of an external integrated trigger safety[41] and two automatic internal safeties: a firing pin safety[42] and a drop safety.[43] The external safety is a small inner lever contained in the trigger. Pressing the lever activates the trigger bar and sheet metal connector. The firing pin safety is a solid hardened steel pin that, in the secured state, blocks the firing pin channel (disabling the firing pin in its longitudinal axis). It is pushed upward to release the firing pin for firing only when the trigger is actuated and the safety is pushed up through the backward movement of the trigger bar. The drop safety guides the trigger bar in a ramp that is released only when direct rearward pressure is applied to the trigger. The three safety mechanisms are automatically disengaged one after the other when the trigger is squeezed, and are automatically reactivated when the trigger is released.[17][44] This passive safety system omits the manipulation of traditional on-off levers, hammers or other external safeties as found in many other handgun designs.

In 2003, Glock announced the Internal Locking System (ILS) safety feature. The ILS is a manually activated lock that is located in the back of the pistol's grip. It is cylindrical in design and, according to Glock, each key is unique. When activated, the lock causes a tab to protrude from the rear of the grip giving both a visual and tactile indication as to whether the lock is engaged or not. When activated, the ILS renders the Glock unfireable as well as making it impossible to disassemble. When disengaged, the ILS adds no further safety mechanisms to the Glock pistol. The ILS is available as an option on most Glock pistols. Glock pistols cannot be retrofitted to accommodate the ILS. The lock must be factory built in Austria and shipped as a special order.

Doublejimmy Wrote:

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> TNaicker Wrote:
>

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>

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> > I know nothing about guns so I ask out of
> > ignorance...can a gun go off without the
> trigger
> > being pulled ?? And don't guns have safety
> > features that prevent this happening ??
>
>
> Wikipedia Section for GLOCK
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock#Features
> Safety
> Glock pistols are designed with three independent
> safety mechanisms to prevent accidental discharge.
> The system, designated "Safe Action" by Glock,
> consists of an external integrated trigger
> safety[41] and two automatic internal safeties: a
> firing pin safety[42] and a drop safety.[43] The
> external safety is a small inner lever contained
> in the trigger. Pressing the lever activates the
> trigger bar and sheet metal connector. The firing
> pin safety is a solid hardened steel pin that, in
> the secured state, blocks the firing pin channel
> (disabling the firing pin in its longitudinal
> axis). It is pushed upward to release the firing
> pin for firing only when the trigger is actuated
> and the safety is pushed up through the backward
> movement of the trigger bar. The drop safety
> guides the trigger bar in a ramp that is released
> only when direct rearward pressure is applied to
> the trigger. The three safety mechanisms are
> automatically disengaged one after the other when
> the trigger is squeezed, and are automatically
> reactivated when the trigger is released.[17][44]
> This passive safety system omits the manipulation
> of traditional on-off levers, hammers or other
> external safeties as found in many other handgun
> designs.
>
> In 2003, Glock announced the Internal Locking
> System (ILS) safety feature. The ILS is a manually
> activated lock that is located in the back of the
> pistol's grip. It is cylindrical in design and,
> according to Glock, each key is unique. When
> activated, the lock causes a tab to protrude from
> the rear of the grip giving both a visual and
> tactile indication as to whether the lock is
> engaged or not. When activated, the ILS renders
> the Glock unfireable as well as making it
> impossible to disassemble. When disengaged, the
> ILS adds no further safety mechanisms to the Glock
> pistol. The ILS is available as an option on most
> Glock pistols. Glock pistols cannot be retrofitted
> to accommodate the ILS. The lock must be factory
> built in Austria and shipped as a special order.

@Doublejimmy...much appreciated...we learn something new every day...

Wikipedia and Google is ur best Friends in this day and age