Sheer desperation or is it a first in S.A

champs are few and far between they make up less than 1 percent if that of the horse population we talking abt the bread and butter horse.....you have 2 horses with ivan i challenge you firstly to find races for both every week and run them or move them to the highveld to the trainers that do run them every week and lets see what happens....you the person paying the bills so go for it

I rather have a average horse running than standing in stable , owners dont have horses to see them stabled and run their best races on the training track . Spies proved he got the Buddy Maroun method right .

how many of Buddy Marouns horses broke down or Spies horses ? We can debate the facts all day long but in short I know most owners want to see horses race win or lose but if you dont have a ticket you have no chance

It's never easy to find races however it's our intention to run Bud on 17th and 22nd ( depending on draw)

Have to interrupt this thread with a classic before the guys come for the rugby

I was trying to search Kincem ( the great Hungarian horse that won more races than any other horse)
I think won 3 races in the build up to a big race? Much the same as Aussie horses do for Melbourne Cup

But getting back to Kincem when typing u get that corrective text and yes it suggested "mincemeat "

Lol

Blouperd Wrote:

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> I rather have a average horse running than
> standing in stable , owners dont have horses to
> see them stabled and run their best races on the
> training track . Spies proved he got the Buddy
> Maroun method right .
>
> how many of Buddy Marouns horses broke down or
> Spies horses ? We can debate the facts all day
> long but in short I know most owners want to see
> horses race win or lose but if you dont have a
> ticket you have no chance


blouperd you clearly suffer from alzheimers disease...a few times already on this site you have come forward with incorrect facts and yet again you cannot recall a spies horse breaking down....GO ASK SEAN PATTERSON IF CHAZAK BROKE DOWN ....sean is in hospital go pay him and the other workrider who came down because of chazak breaking down.....

pirates Wrote:

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> Blouperd Wrote:
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>

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> > I rather have a average horse running than
> > standing in stable , owners dont have horses to
> > see them stabled and run their best races on
> the
> > training track . Spies proved he got the Buddy
> > Maroun method right .
> >
> > how many of Buddy Marouns horses broke down or
> > Spies horses ? We can debate the facts all day
> > long but in short I know most owners want to
> see
> > horses race win or lose but if you dont have a
> > ticket you have no chance
>
>
> blouperd you clearly suffer from alzheimers
> disease...a few times already on this site you
> have come forward with incorrect facts and yet
> again you cannot recall a spies horse breaking
> down....GO ASK SEAN PATTERSON IF CHAZAK BROKE
> DOWN ....sean is in hospital go pay him and the
> other workrider who came down because of chazak
> breaking down.....

You clearly didnt read what i wrote , and stop attacking the man , we all have opinions <

not long ago may be two three years spies race the horse four or five times in a short period it break down in race and is destroy. when this horse is tested he is found positive for two band substance to kill pain. spies get the fine. the horse is call mr petal

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> not long ago may be two three years spies race the
> horse four or five times in a short period it
> break down in race and is destroy. when this horse
> is tested he is found positive for two band
> substance to kill pain. spies get the fine. the
> horse is call mr petal

www.formgrids.com/subscriber/fgHorseHist.aspx?hs=MR%20PETAL,ZA

He won 3rd and 4th win in 3 days

29 races 5 wins and another 15 races in the money .
after 8 months rest:
2007-09-15 Turf 1800 5th
2007-09-22 Vaal 1800 9th
2007-09-27 Vaal 2000 won
2007-10-07 Vaal 1800 3rd
2007-10-18 Vaal 2000 broke down

Why wasnt he tested when he won or ran 3rd but only been tested when broked down?:S

The predicament that I was faced with ,was that if the trainer was to scratch the horse from the Clairwood meeting it would have picked up an immediate 12 day suspension thus being unable to run at the Vaal the following day.(Strydom had the ride)

scotia Wrote:

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> Have to interrupt this thread with a classic
> before the guys come for the rugby
>
> I was trying to search Kincem ( the great
> Hungarian horse that won more races than any other
> horse)
> I think won 3 races in the build up to a big race?
> Much the same as Aussie horses do for Melbourne
> Cup
>
> But getting back to Kincem when typing u get that
> corrective text and yes it suggested "mincemeat "
>
>
> Lol

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Believe the horses name is Kinscem - i did mention it in the sea cottage thread if not mistaken

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincsem