JULY 2013 Betting

fair enough pirates but my question which is fact remain. why did natal who in 60's/70's WAS the racing capital drop to the b division?

said it before it coincides with the downturn in the breeding strength which is massively in favour of the cape...how many horses does mick goss race with natal trainers?look at stallion and mare s in natal compared to cape its chalk and cheese ...all the top cape yards train for the top breeders jet masters western winters captain als silvanos and natal trainers get opera king slewpendous bezrin mon sang ...old days get foveros jungle coves rambo dancer northern guest to train ...

winzip Wrote:

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> How long is mr ferraris training?has he ever won a
> july or a met?B4 u guys tell me abt objection he
> lost i know,but other than that the answer is
> no.Look back through the years and tell me how
> many 3 yr old fillies hv won the july?U will all
> now point to mdk who has done it twice.Im telling
> you guys jhb form is very very poor and it reminds
> me of last year wen some people were backing ilha
> bela for july because she won easy gr1 races in
> jhb against fillies.You guys can attack and
> believe cott can win,but imo i will be very
> surprised if she can run in the first 5 in the
> july.As for flash who says i hv no clue,u said the
> same wen i said l armstrong is a cheat way way b4
> he admitted he was a cheat.Sorry boys i cant hv
> cott for july unless mdk is the trainer.lol.


Well Winzip you can have a big bet on Rumya seen that you think Mdk is the only trainer that can win with a three year old filly theres no three year old in south africa at the moment that can beat cherry on the top. Ctn only beat living with heart who is avg

pirates Wrote:

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> said it before it coincides with the downturn in
> the breeding strength which is massively in favour
> of the cape...how many horses does mick goss race
> with natal trainers?look at stallion and mare s in
> natal compared to cape its chalk and cheese ...all
> the top cape yards train for the top breeders jet
> masters western winters captain als silvanos and
> natal trainers get opera king slewpendous bezrin
> mon sang ...old days get foveros jungle coves
> rambo dancer northern guest to train ...

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Surely owners can bring progeny of these Western Winters / Jet Masters to KZN

Just a quick one - how many races are there in KZN vs WC vs JHB? and what are the total stakes differences?
Think if the stakes increased to that on par of JHB we would see some more above average horses in the KZN area...

At first glance I would imagine that JHB leads that, then WC and then followed by KZN? however could be wrong - dont look at the stats...

Think this is where the big turning point is in my opinion... but like a said, dont look at the stats too much so I could be well off of the ball

Then again, when they do come head to head, the other training centres do come out on top... does make for interesting debate... Guess it is in the feed or water or something

Ram Wrote:

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> winzip Wrote:
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> > How long is mr ferraris training?has he ever won
> a
> > july or a met?B4 u guys tell me abt objection
> he
> > lost i know,but other than that the answer is
> > no.Look back through the years and tell me how
> > many 3 yr old fillies hv won the july?U will
> all
> > now point to mdk who has done it twice.Im
> telling
> > you guys jhb form is very very poor and it
> reminds
> > me of last year wen some people were backing
> ilha
> > bela for july because she won easy gr1 races in
> > jhb against fillies.You guys can attack and
> > believe cott can win,but imo i will be very
> > surprised if she can run in the first 5 in the
> > july.As for flash who says i hv no clue,u said
> the
> > same wen i said l armstrong is a cheat way way
> b4
> > he admitted he was a cheat.Sorry boys i cant hv
> > cott for july unless mdk is the trainer.lol.
>
>
> Well Winzip you can have a big bet on Rumya seen
> that you think Mdk is the only trainer that can
> win with a three year old filly theres no three
> year old in south africa at the moment that can
> beat cherry on the top. Ctn only beat living with
> heart who is avg

Rumya has just returned from injury and is unlikely to be ready for any of the big Durban races.

The bookmaker spokeman at the function on Thursday said they would probably wait for the Turffontein meeting next Saturday before pricing up for the July because a lot of the July horses are involved there. This is not the UK but that's still a pretty poor show.

If your having a bet , been told CTN is not a certain starter...

hibernia Wrote:

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> If your having a bet , been told CTN is not a
> certain starter...


Think they using the daily news to see if he stays

hibernia Wrote:

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> If your having a bet , been told CTN is not a
> certain starter...


obviously, even kannemeyer doubt he can run a solid 2200m

The way he makes up lengths, all they gta do it sit on him, and press go on the Greyville short str8 and he will mk mince meat of any opposition..this horse is top draw

KReddy Wrote:

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> hibernia Wrote:
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> > If your having a bet , been told CTN is not a
> > certain starter...
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>
> Think they using the daily news to see if he stays


He won a stiffer 10f in the C Derby and the July is normally run on good ground...me thinks he will run in the July but it wont be his main target.

I think the jock may cost cott the july. Would be nice to see lloyd bring her home, then again she might run third.