JULY 2013 Betting

ShezaPunter Wrote:

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> I heard last year dt MR Ferraris said COTT will
> win July 2013


that does not sound like Mr Ferraris

hibernia Wrote:

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> I think if anything COTT has been visually even
> more impressive than Igugu ,and the fields were
> not any stronger when Igugu won the Tiara

no superstar in gauteng eh hibs <

this filly is some thing special. now be fore i say she might struggle to win oaks but be side woody horse she has got nothing to beat. i think the million check can be deposit safe in mrs o bank account today all ready.

to say she win july is getting ahead of our self but winzip you really are the clue less if you think she has no chance.

@Mac,I know that one doesn't know who will win the July,lol, but I was merely stating wt I heard-to show that there is confidence that this Filly is a huge runner.

@Me H, yes I know, but as I said,only posting what I heard. I didn't hear it str8 4rm the horses mouth, but rather throught the grapevine. It was told 2me last year be4 her 2nd or third win

How long is mr ferraris training?has he ever won a july or a met?B4 u guys tell me abt objection he lost i know,but other than that the answer is no.Look back through the years and tell me how many 3 yr old fillies hv won the july?U will all now point to mdk who has done it twice.Im telling you guys jhb form is very very poor and it reminds me of last year wen some people were backing ilha bela for july because she won easy gr1 races in jhb against fillies.You guys can attack and believe cott can win,but imo i will be very surprised if she can run in the first 5 in the july.As for flash who says i hv no clue,u said the same wen i said l armstrong is a cheat way way b4 he admitted he was a cheat.Sorry boys i cant hv cott for july unless mdk is the trainer.lol.

winzip Wrote:

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> How long is mr ferraris training?has he ever won a
> july or a met?B4 u guys tell me abt objection he
> lost i know,but other than that the answer is
> no.Look back through the years and tell me how
> many 3 yr old fillies hv won the july?U will all
> now point to mdk who has done it twice.Im telling
> you guys jhb form is very very poor and it reminds
> me of last year wen some people were backing ilha
> bela for july because she won easy gr1 races in
> jhb against fillies.You guys can attack and
> believe cott can win,but imo i will be very
> surprised if she can run in the first 5 in the
> july.As for flash who says i hv no clue,u said the
> same wen i said l armstrong is a cheat way way b4
> he admitted he was a cheat.Sorry boys i cant hv
> cott for july unless mdk is the trainer.lol.

Could have sworn the last two julys were won by JHB trained horses ,infact was it not the last two 1st-2snds not from JHB?

1. The weights to be carried shall not exceed 60kg and shall not be less than 52kg.
2. Minimum weight for 4-year-olds and older: Colts and Geldings 53kg Fillies and Mares 52kg
Maximum weight for 4-year and older
at publication of weights: Colts and Geldings 60kg Fillies and Mares 59kg
3. Minimum weight for 3-year-olds: Colts and Geldings 53kg Fillies 52kg
Maximum weight for 3-year-olds
at publication of weights: Colts and Geldings 57kg Fillies and Mares 56kg
4. No penalties shall be incurred after the publication of weights.
5. Notwithstanding 2 and 3 above, the Handicapper will raise all weights proportionately to 60kg. should the top
weight originally allotted be less than 60kg at final declaration.
V


3yr old fillies will carry a max. of 56 kg. Top weight will be 60kg.

winzip Wrote:

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> How long is mr ferraris training?has he ever won a
> july or a met?B4 u guys tell me abt objection he
> lost i know,but other than that the answer is
> no.Look back through the years and tell me how
> many 3 yr old fillies hv won the july?U will all
> now point to mdk who has done it twice.Im telling
> you guys jhb form is very very poor and it reminds
> me of last year wen some people were backing ilha
> bela for july because she won easy gr1 races in
> jhb against fillies.You guys can attack and
> believe cott can win,but imo i will be very
> surprised if she can run in the first 5 in the
> july.As for flash who says i hv no clue,u said the
> same wen i said l armstrong is a cheat way way b4
> he admitted he was a cheat.Sorry boys i cant hv
> cott for july unless mdk is the trainer.lol.


winzip mr ferrari has train more gr1 winner than you have breakfast. no trainer in natal include your champion denis drier come close. i tell you some thing for free, their is more chance of flash winning the lotto with a straight line entry than a natal born trainer win the july. when last the july win by a natal trainer? i think i was the young boy in 1992 denis drier win. you wait a lot longer for your next winner with the b division you have their my friend. this year the betting is cape trainer win 6/10 joburg trainer ( inc de kock our local boykie ) 8/10 natal born trainer write your own ticket

by the way flash no born yesterday, ricky maingard fit in well with mauritian rule kzn but he is no natal trainer so 1994 you can take a space walk for that being a natal win <

Surely Cherry must have a realistic chance of winning the July...but there are 2 major negatives...firstly she will have to give weight to those fillies running on behind...secondly inexperienced jocks hardly ever win the July.

winzip your comments are laughable ,considering the buying power and support mr ferraris gets he is by far the best trainer in the country and what he has forgotten in his time many trainers will never learn...he has had his son david, mdk,mike clements and weiho pass through his yard and he is the ultimate horseman ....if he towed the line and wasnt outspoken and kissed aas like most of the trainers do he would of got a lot more support but he is a man of integrity and will not lie and sell his soul like many others have...as a trainer and horseman HE IS THE LAST OF A DYING BREED ...some of these arrogant trainers around who think the sun shines out their backsides couldnt wipe his aas .

pirates Wrote:

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> winzip your comments are laughable ,considering
> the buying power and support mr ferraris gets he
> is by far the best trainer in the country and what
> he has forgotten in his time many trainers will
> never learn...he has had his son david, mdk,mike
> clements and weiho pass through his yard and he is
> the ultimate horseman ....if he towed the line and
> wasnt outspoken and kissed aas like most of the
> trainers do he would of got a lot more support but
> he is a man of integrity and will not lie and sell
> his soul like many others have...as a trainer and
> horseman HE IS THE LAST OF A DYING BREED ...some
> of these arrogant trainers around who think the
> sun shines out their backsides couldnt wipe his
> aas .

100% well say pirates

what happen to natal trainers? syd laird, herman brown senior plenty more. The 70's they were unbeatable i dont accept buying power rubbish the natal trainer of 80's/90's/00's with exception of dennis drier pirates is right they are b division

flash im not into provincialism as i said before its killing the game ...i couldnt care where the horse jockey sire dam owners trainers were born i look at the form stuff the ancestory of connections ...