Frankel @ R1.8m......
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Frankel @ R1.8m......
12 years 7 months ago
a pop ,what South African mare would you like sent over to Newmarket?
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Happy Archer: Dubawi (IRE) - So Tempted (AUS) by Jeune (GB)
After she has her last season, would be one cracking good breeding and 16-1800m lil baby...
(Maybe this is just because shes close to my heart, who knows)
After she has her last season, would be one cracking good breeding and 16-1800m lil baby...
(Maybe this is just because shes close to my heart, who knows)

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12 years 7 months ago
VAL DA RA
EBONY FLYER
PRINCESS VICTORIA
BEACH BEAUTY
You will get more than double your money back if you put that foal on a sale,even with 3 legs
EBONY FLYER
PRINCESS VICTORIA
BEACH BEAUTY
You will get more than double your money back if you put that foal on a sale,even with 3 legs
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Neon Wrote:
> Dancewiththedevil
She is already in UK ,St John Gray going to race her there(she traveled with the de kock horses)...with her race record yes but conformation and pedigree is a disaster,i wont even take a chance...
> Dancewiththedevil
She is already in UK ,St John Gray going to race her there(she traveled with the de kock horses)...with her race record yes but conformation and pedigree is a disaster,i wont even take a chance...
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?.....Ziets that's where you are wrong.......nothing wrong with DWTD ped wise......just because her sire did not fire......does not mean she's badly bred. Cconfirmation wise she's better shaped than Igugu ......st.Jjohn is a smarty when it comes to matings but will not spend the earth when it comes to brass tacks .....will be interesting who he mates her with......but also depends on her overseas performances.....
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'Brangelina' dreams over: The world's most sought-after animal gigolo
(CNN) -- After conquering the race track, superstar colt Frankel is set to become one of the most sought-after gigolos on the planet -- and his rival's mum could be the perfect love match.
In a plot reminiscent of a daytime soap opera, champion race horse Frankel would be an ideal mate to rival Black Caviar's mum, experts say.
Frankel wrapped up his stellar career in the Champion Stakes at Ascot on Saturday with an unblemished 14-win record, while Australian mare Black Caviar also remains unbeaten in 22 races.
The two highest-rated race horses in the world had been tipped to meet in the breeding sheds once six-year-old Black Caviar also retired.
Frankel ends career in dramatic style A second chance for injured racehorses Breeding ground of champions
But the "Brangelina" of the racing world wouldn't necessarily produce champion bundles of joy. In fact, distance runner Frankel may be better suited to Black Caviar's mum -- 11-year-old Australian mare Helsinge.
"To be honest, Frankel and Black Caviar's bloodlines aren't ideally suited," Richard Andrews, of Racing Victoria in Australia, told CNN, when asked if the equine equivalent of Hollywood stars Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie was on the cards.
"I would have their genetic make-up tested using the Equinome method -- this would ascertain if Frankel has any sprinting or middle distance genes in him.
"Otherwise a pure stayer to a pure sprinter could end up with a slow horse."
Read: Tall, dark, handsome muse...is a horse
Black Caviar's co-owner Neil Warrett had hinted that Frankel may be a good match, telling Australian newspaper The Age: "We would consider going to Frankel because he is clearly the best distance horse in the world."
But it seems Black Caviar's mother Helsinge may be better suited to the task. She has already proved herself to be a wonder mom, giving birth to successful racing horses Moshe and All Too Hard.
Her recent foal, the half-sister to Black Caviar, sold for $2.6 million at auction in April.
Read: Twitter: From the horse's mouth
Four-year-old Frankel earned Saudi owner Prince Khalid Abdullah more than $4 million in prize money on the race track.
But even greater returns await in his new life as a stud, with thoroughbred owners across the world sending in their mares' CV's in the hope of securing a date with arguably the greatest race horse of all time.
The British horse is expected to start his new duties in February, commanding a fee of $160,000 each time he sires a foal.
And with three to four mares falling under Frankel spell every day, the colt could notch up $16 million each year -- depending on his libido and fertility.
Frankel and Black Caviar aren't suited -- a pure stayer to a pure sprinter could end up with a slow horse
Richard Andrews, Racing Victoria
Mating usually takes place in a special breeding shed, with handlers overseeing the union. The mare will have thick padding placed on her back and hind feet to guard against injury of the expensive thoroughbreds.
Should he fail to rise to the occasion, Frankel may well return to the race course, as other champion thoroughbreds have done in the past.
Read: A weighty issue: Hidden world of jockey heaving bowls
For now, Frankel will have a few weeks rest before he heads to pastures new -- at Banstead Manor Stud, Cheveley - part of the Juddmonte Farms breeding arm of Abdullah's racing operation.
Frankel is quite the catch for equine cupids -- his father was 2001 Epsom Derby winner Galileo, while his mother Kind won six races during her career.
"As with most bluebloods, Frankel's colt would potentially be worth tens of millions of dollars," Andrews said.
"As a yearling (a race horse between one and two-years-old), it could be worth $3 million to $10 million -- depending on a potential bidding war between Ireland's Coolmore Stud Farm and Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum's Darley Stud Farm."
There's no guaranteeing the quality of Frankel's offspring. But if his parents are anything to go by -- father Galileo had huge stamina, while mother Kind possessed speed -- older female Helisinge may prove to be a match made in heaven.
(CNN) -- After conquering the race track, superstar colt Frankel is set to become one of the most sought-after gigolos on the planet -- and his rival's mum could be the perfect love match.
In a plot reminiscent of a daytime soap opera, champion race horse Frankel would be an ideal mate to rival Black Caviar's mum, experts say.
Frankel wrapped up his stellar career in the Champion Stakes at Ascot on Saturday with an unblemished 14-win record, while Australian mare Black Caviar also remains unbeaten in 22 races.
The two highest-rated race horses in the world had been tipped to meet in the breeding sheds once six-year-old Black Caviar also retired.
Frankel ends career in dramatic style A second chance for injured racehorses Breeding ground of champions
But the "Brangelina" of the racing world wouldn't necessarily produce champion bundles of joy. In fact, distance runner Frankel may be better suited to Black Caviar's mum -- 11-year-old Australian mare Helsinge.
"To be honest, Frankel and Black Caviar's bloodlines aren't ideally suited," Richard Andrews, of Racing Victoria in Australia, told CNN, when asked if the equine equivalent of Hollywood stars Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie was on the cards.
"I would have their genetic make-up tested using the Equinome method -- this would ascertain if Frankel has any sprinting or middle distance genes in him.
"Otherwise a pure stayer to a pure sprinter could end up with a slow horse."
Read: Tall, dark, handsome muse...is a horse
Black Caviar's co-owner Neil Warrett had hinted that Frankel may be a good match, telling Australian newspaper The Age: "We would consider going to Frankel because he is clearly the best distance horse in the world."
But it seems Black Caviar's mother Helsinge may be better suited to the task. She has already proved herself to be a wonder mom, giving birth to successful racing horses Moshe and All Too Hard.
Her recent foal, the half-sister to Black Caviar, sold for $2.6 million at auction in April.
Read: Twitter: From the horse's mouth
Four-year-old Frankel earned Saudi owner Prince Khalid Abdullah more than $4 million in prize money on the race track.
But even greater returns await in his new life as a stud, with thoroughbred owners across the world sending in their mares' CV's in the hope of securing a date with arguably the greatest race horse of all time.
The British horse is expected to start his new duties in February, commanding a fee of $160,000 each time he sires a foal.
And with three to four mares falling under Frankel spell every day, the colt could notch up $16 million each year -- depending on his libido and fertility.
Frankel and Black Caviar aren't suited -- a pure stayer to a pure sprinter could end up with a slow horse
Richard Andrews, Racing Victoria
Mating usually takes place in a special breeding shed, with handlers overseeing the union. The mare will have thick padding placed on her back and hind feet to guard against injury of the expensive thoroughbreds.
Should he fail to rise to the occasion, Frankel may well return to the race course, as other champion thoroughbreds have done in the past.
Read: A weighty issue: Hidden world of jockey heaving bowls
For now, Frankel will have a few weeks rest before he heads to pastures new -- at Banstead Manor Stud, Cheveley - part of the Juddmonte Farms breeding arm of Abdullah's racing operation.
Frankel is quite the catch for equine cupids -- his father was 2001 Epsom Derby winner Galileo, while his mother Kind won six races during her career.
"As with most bluebloods, Frankel's colt would potentially be worth tens of millions of dollars," Andrews said.
"As a yearling (a race horse between one and two-years-old), it could be worth $3 million to $10 million -- depending on a potential bidding war between Ireland's Coolmore Stud Farm and Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum's Darley Stud Farm."
There's no guaranteeing the quality of Frankel's offspring. But if his parents are anything to go by -- father Galileo had huge stamina, while mother Kind possessed speed -- older female Helisinge may prove to be a match made in heaven.
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Re: Re: Frankel @ R1.8m......
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gregbucks Wrote:
> So is that your suggestion Muti...
No...generally .you do not take mares off the track for a exorbitant pomp 1st up....
> So is that your suggestion Muti...
No...generally .you do not take mares off the track for a exorbitant pomp 1st up....
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zesto Wrote:
> Whats happening with Pocket Power ?
Zesto i hope you not suggesting that Frankie and PP get together...
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> Whats happening with Pocket Power ?
Zesto i hope you not suggesting that Frankie and PP get together...

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