"the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing."

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"the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing."

12 years 9 months ago
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THIS WAS A RESPONSE TO A LETTER ON SPORTING POST (SEE BOTTOM) AND REPLY BY John Stuart, International Executive Director of Phumelela Gold replies:

"the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing".

IT SHOULD READ LIKE THIS

I"The schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of PHUMELELA AND GOLD CIRCLE'S COFFERS"
WHO DO THEY THINKING THEY ARE BULL SHITING THEY REALLY UNDERESTIMATES OUR INTELLIGENCE!

From Sporting post"

Does Harness Racing really have more universal appeal than the high quality product from Hong Kong? In a letter received earlier this week, a reader writing under the pseudonym ‘Hong Kong Lover’, questions Saftote.

Phumelela Gold have kindly provided a response to the apparently valid question.

Dear Sir

Can anyone tell me how SAFTOTE can make a decision like removing turnover generating racing like Hong Kong from our calendar, while still continuing with Australian Harness Racing which generate about R5 000 to R10 000 – that is going by the jackpot pools?

At least we have an interest with South Africans like Dougie Whyte, Tony Millard, David Ferraris, Weichong Marwing, and now Richard Fourie.

Could it be that they haven’t realised it has started already ?

Also no Hong Kong racing on the schedule for this month on their website.

Not a wonder that turnovers never improve!

Hong Kong Lover

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John Stuart, International Executive Director of Phumelela Gold replies:

I’m sure that your reader will understand that for me to get into detail here is difficult because some of the information is commercially sensitive and we are in any event bound by confidentiality clauses in our agreements.

However what I will say is that we will always schedule the product that provides the best turnover for the South African horse racing industry. As such we would never replace flat racing with harness racing as it does approximately four times the turnover. In fact the Australian harness racing normally ends fifteen minutes before the Hong Kong meeting would normally start so they are not competing in the same time slot! The Hong Kong meeting in question was replaced by another flat meeting that would have generated more turnover.

In closure we would like to assure everyone out there that the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing.

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12 years 9 months ago
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What a load of rubbish. The HK turnovers on SAFTOTE were at least the equivalent of the main UK meeting every day. Perhaps it costs more to cover Hong Kong - who can tell form John Stuarts pathetic response. Once again SAFTOTE's customers (the punter) wishes are considered irrelevant by P & GC.

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12 years 9 months ago
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Unfortunately listening to those comments highlights the perception that most of us punters are half-wits. I wonder if J.S. realises why more and more people do SPORTS BETTING. Harness Racing over Hong Kong, Get Real.

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Re: Re: "the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing."

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Harness Racing starts after 10 am most days and clocks off after 1 pm. It does not take up "premium" racing space and a lot of regular big punters like having a go at the harness.

The Australian Harness Racing and NZ are fascinating contests and you will be surprised to see how many wins , places and runs these horses rack up.Sometimes the stakes earned are mind-boggling.

I have seen some of these superstars more often than one sees in S.A. Horse-racing.

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Re: Re: "the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing."

12 years 9 months ago
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It`s all pish ,you need more south african racing simples..

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12 years 9 months ago
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I love the racing in england that tellytrack show,but I think that international racing should stop at around 7,I would rather watch the days south african replays than shit from philadelphia! But instead they will broadcast crap so they make money and make race owners wait up till 23:00 to watch a simple replay..pathetic!

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Re: Re: "the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing."

12 years 9 months ago
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I like punting on racing that we have full exposure to fixed odds betting and hate tote based punting where the only chance you have an idea of a horses chances are when they are sticking them in the box and saying its paying 13 dollars not sure if that means 3/10 or 13/10? But keep the punters blind, get Cecil and the guys to give the punters an idea before the off.

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12 years 9 months ago
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Lets wait for Phums results and have a good lag

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12 years 9 months ago
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scotia Wrote:
> I like punting on racing that we have full
> exposure to fixed odds betting and hate tote based
> punting where the only chance you have an idea of
> a horses chances are when they are sticking them
> in the box and saying its paying 13 dollars not
> sure if that means 3/10 or 13/10? But keep the
> punters blind, get Cecil and the guys to give the
> punters an idea before the off.


Is this not why we have not been taking Hong Kong racing............it may be their special terms that Stuart refers to.............Hong Kong are very specific about the terms under which they share their racing and I think that "fixed price" betting is one of their exclusions.

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Re: Re: "the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing."

12 years 9 months ago
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oscar Wrote:
> Lets wait for Phums results and have a good lag

I wonder if they can show us how the profit they make is "for the good of South African horse racing".

I would like to know how that profits is used "for the good of South African horse racing". because all I know it is for the good of their shareholders

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12 years 9 months ago
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Jb you ask and answer your question.

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Re: Re: "the schedule of racing that is produced for Tellytrack is designed to drive optimum turnover for the good of South African horse racing."

12 years 9 months ago
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@James Blonde - So, we get rid of the shareholders, keep the R50M or so that we pay them and rather go back to paying an extra R130M in taxes ? (I admit that I am challenged by Maths, but I do OK with basic Arithmetic.)
@Devon Air - try reading JS's response again - I cannot find where he says that they replaced Hong Kong with Harness ?
@MVP - I agree with you 100% - 7pm - move onto our own Racing replays and shows etc

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