PHENOMENAL
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PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
How does a THREE-YEAR-OLD filly , that has only won one race give weight to older multiple winners and still win? - A lesson for the teletrack presenters.
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
Mr H, I could not have itactually... turned three on Sunday .. hard knockers receiving weight... still trying to wipe the egg off my face especially as my strong fancy could not even run a drum
... Tough game this.

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12 years 9 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> How does a THREE-YEAR-OLD filly , that has only
> won one race give weight to older multiple winners
> and still win? - A lesson for the teletrack
> presenters.
Mr H, the 2 TT presenters on at the moment are ramping and raving about horses coming out of the TSITSIKAMA STRIKE formline racing in R5. There has been 10 runners since with only 2 placings.....say no more
> How does a THREE-YEAR-OLD filly , that has only
> won one race give weight to older multiple winners
> and still win? - A lesson for the teletrack
> presenters.
Mr H, the 2 TT presenters on at the moment are ramping and raving about horses coming out of the TSITSIKAMA STRIKE formline racing in R5. There has been 10 runners since with only 2 placings.....say no more
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
It's a sprint Magi - Millard once put a two-year-old Filly in a GR I Sprint and she ran 4th - Over ground yes they can get rolled but just because a horse is only a one-time-winner does not mean it can not beat multiple winners - 90% of the time the MR is the best guide
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> It's a sprint Magi - Millard once put a
> two-year-old Filly in a GR I Sprint and she ran
> 4th - Over ground yes they can get rolled but just
> because a horse is only a one-time-winner does not
> mean it can not beat multiple winners - 90% of the
> time the MR is the best guide
I understand the sprint part.... It was the weight i did not like, and I now times are not reliable unless raced on the same day... but as a guide to try and assess her win I saw she won in a fairly average time, with Princess Rue almost a second faster when she won over the Vaal 1000m's. Add to the fact that I believed that being the outside track PR had the better of the going... at the prices for me it was a 'no brainer'... but of course I had no idea how good / or not... she is . Well i found out
> It's a sprint Magi - Millard once put a
> two-year-old Filly in a GR I Sprint and she ran
> 4th - Over ground yes they can get rolled but just
> because a horse is only a one-time-winner does not
> mean it can not beat multiple winners - 90% of the
> time the MR is the best guide
I understand the sprint part.... It was the weight i did not like, and I now times are not reliable unless raced on the same day... but as a guide to try and assess her win I saw she won in a fairly average time, with Princess Rue almost a second faster when she won over the Vaal 1000m's. Add to the fact that I believed that being the outside track PR had the better of the going... at the prices for me it was a 'no brainer'... but of course I had no idea how good / or not... she is . Well i found out

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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
I too thought they were somking something - but they were right - job well done - that being said, I do believe Extra Zing ran below her maiden win, or else Negev may be over-rated?
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
Frodo may be the form is holding? I no under stand why the noise about negev she beat nothing in maiden in fact she beat very poor horses
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
I remember a filly Getaway winning a feature as a 2yo in the Cape against older horses but it received weight as it went to the front and never got caught over 1600m. There was a race called the John Skeaping Trophy in Gauteng where the just turned 4yos raced against the just turned 3yos in September. I think Golden Hoard was a 3yo when it won the race.
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
maybe when people understand that the horse did not run off a 92 it ran off a 79 they will realise that the horse actually isnt that highly rated..and is still very competitive in handicaps
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
naresh plenty 3yos won that race be noble and i think zamit as well..that was a top race and why they scrapped that race and the season ending champion stakes at greyville beggars fcuking belief...
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
formgrids.biz/subscriber/fgLengthBehind....VR&dist=1000&cnty=ZA
here this Filly beats a group of 21 horses including older horses by 5 lengths
formgrids.biz/subscriber/fgLengthBehind....VR&dist=1000&cnty=ZA
Extra Zing's time not as good a Mboweni
Not an exact science but does often shown you the strength different races on the same day
here this Filly beats a group of 21 horses including older horses by 5 lengths
formgrids.biz/subscriber/fgLengthBehind....VR&dist=1000&cnty=ZA
Extra Zing's time not as good a Mboweni
Not an exact science but does often shown you the strength different races on the same day
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Re: Re: PHENOMENAL
12 years 9 months ago
JustinV Wrote:
> maybe when people understand that the horse did
> not run off a 92 it ran off a 79 they will realise
> that the horse actually isnt that highly
> rated..and is still very competitive in handicaps
please justin let it be you never going to change laager mentality pal...8 time winner always better than a 2 time winner just has to be won 6 more races
> maybe when people understand that the horse did
> not run off a 92 it ran off a 79 they will realise
> that the horse actually isnt that highly
> rated..and is still very competitive in handicaps
please justin let it be you never going to change laager mentality pal...8 time winner always better than a 2 time winner just has to be won 6 more races
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