2 forums?

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> I disagree Justin - as in life certain people are
> better than others - trainers are the same - A
> good trainer does not have to be a GR I trainer -
> He must be able to find the weakest company for
> his horse to run in that will give it the best
> chance of earning - How many trainers actually try
> to do that?


and that my friends is that................as more and more handicaps have crept into sa racing its been OBVIOUS that the "great/awesome/brilliant" trainers of 10 years ago are actually clueless in placing their horses in correct races.

Its not the calibre of horse that counts its the running in the correct race.

Justin,I'm sorry but that comment is spoken like a loser fella!
You believe successful people achieve because they are lucky?
The real reason there are good trainers and poor trainers is cos,as in all careers, life consists of winners and losers!

easy Wrote:

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> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > I disagree Justin - as in life certain people
> are
> > better than others - trainers are the same - A
> > good trainer does not have to be a GR I trainer
> -
> > He must be able to find the weakest company for
> > his horse to run in that will give it the best
> > chance of earning - How many trainers actually
> try
> > to do that?
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>
> and that my friends is that................as more
> and more handicaps have crept into sa racing its
> been OBVIOUS that the "great/awesome/brilliant"
> trainers of 10 years ago are actually clueless in
> placing their horses in correct races.
>
> Its not the calibre of horse that counts its the
> running in the correct race.


AL NITAK!!!!!

pirates Wrote:

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> i agree with rob if you want to post then put your
> name up ,the world is full of yellow bellies


Funny enough after this comment I went and checked who are you www.africanbettingclan.com/forum/phorum-...d.php?3,18712,page=1 and the last tme I edited I was 34 - Will be 38 in July! Time is not a friend! (somethng wrong with the maths)

Man there is nothing like putting something in writing and viewing it later to put things into perspective!

Alcaponee Wrote:

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> pirates Wrote:
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> > i agree with rob if you want to post then put
> your
> > name up ,the world is full of yellow bellies
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> Funny enough after this comment I went and checked
> who are you and the last tme I edited I was 34 -
> Will be 38 in July! Time is not a friend!
> (somethng wrong with the maths)
>
> Man there is nothing like putting something in
> writing and viewing it later to put things into
> perspective!


Ya you have stunned me with this post !

I was probably 35 at the time or I did not bother to update the age at the tme of edit - Who knows. The point is time flies and it takes notes with time stamps on them to realise it.

Hope this now makes sense solo.

www.africanbettingclan.com/forum/phorum-...d.php?3,18712,page=1

Have some fun !

Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy ?

Most of us in horseplaying are in the same 'boat' ...enjoy the process.

Life is oh so very short ( and often oh so serious ).

RACING GURU Wrote:

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> so what u are suggesting justin...is a kind of
> league system....with hibs and scotia being the
> handicapper and giving us all a merit rating
> ...according to our posts.....and we get a race
> figure after 5 posts minimum...so 1 forum...will
> be for 90 merit rating...and the second will be 89
> and less........and each forumite will be
> continually assessed as per comments...TIPPINGS
> ARE NOT CONSIDERED AS PART OF YOUR RATING...so bad
> tipsters could still remain in the premier
> league...despite bad tipping.....geez this forum
> business is becoming increasingly more difficult
> to run....and here we say PHUMELELA IS DOING A BAD
> JOB....imagine what they up against....LOL

I should now be ready to be rated somewhere in a novice or graduation plate(

You gotta be a psychologist.
What was Baffert doing in UAE world cup final, the day after his heart op ?
It was the Sheikh who saved him by rushing him to hospital and it's not uncommon these days to see people recovering from this operation within hours, but was he a likely candidate for the day's races after all that ?
In my opinion he was n't and he went there just to see his friends

JustinV Wrote:

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> > as much as we respect the opinion of trainers I
> > see nothing wrong with criticizing them.
> trainers
> > discover the abilities of their horses through
> > trial and error. there's a reason why there are
> > successful and poor trainers. in my opinion
> poor
> > trainers tend to have similarities, e.g.: using
> > blinkers even when they are not working, running
> a
> > horse over unsuitable distance or class or
> using
> > unsuitable pilots. I don't have to be a
> > trainer/ex-trainer to know that a horse is
> > unsuited by a particular variable.....
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> in my opinion there are successful trainers and
> poor trainers coz good trainers have good stock
> and poor trainers have bad stock...give mike de
> kock chris erasmus's horses and he wont train a
> gr1 winner..give chris erasmus de kocks horses and
> he will train many(using names purely as examples)


this has to be questioned...how would u answer the turn around of 2 horses in 1 season ,namely BOLD SILVANO...AND THE NAME ESCAPES ME...THE OTHER BEING the horse that ran second in the july to BOLD SILVANO...both these horses ...going no where with their previous trainers...then turns the corner around in a matter of months...if it was 1 u can say just a fluke...but 2...u got to hand it to the masters golden touch...dont u agree?

i often say..if mike de kock had this horse...he would be a champion...

but there's 1 other trainer i believe gets the max. out of a horses ability and that is DENNIS DRIER....he is the absolute unsung champion in my books

there are very good trainers who arent successful because they dont have very good horses...ones that place horses well etc like mr h states..but because the guy is not successful what percentage of racegoers will say he is a "good" trainer? then you have succesful trainers who really arent good trainers as well..i was referring to successful trainers..not good ones..there is a huge difference

It all makes sense now ..........the Cunha stable failed while waiting for its luck to change!