WELL DONE GAVIN VENTER

Some ppl in racing have been locked up for insider trading lassie

I wish Tellytrack officials also read this. How come the tipster's PA's get posted 5 minutes before the race goes off?
It was the same yesterday with Giggles's PA. 3 minutes before the off. This does not give you enogh time to bisect or cange your own PA. Anyone agree?

Maybe I should not post this;
Nothing gets me worked up more than finding i've been lied to and been deliberately given incorrect info
I just checked and saw who was the only unraced winner on Sunday
I'd like to let that trainer know that I and many on ABC now know he is a CHEAT and a lying SOB!
And I for sure have lost my respect for him...and this after I admired him!

I did win a good multiple [5winners] his horse being the first, but I have BUSHY to thank for it

Racing is a game of ups and downs,without HONEST info us poor punters mostly gets the downs,

Remember this when your stable goes off the boil,punters will say...dis orraait vi hom hy's n' VUILGAT!!!:X(td)

RACING GURU Wrote:

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> > Gav I would like to know what gave you so much
> > confidence about that horse?
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> the horse beat JELLA LOOCHEE in the gallops...and
> JL was well.....so R MAN became an aimer...and
> more so when JL won the previous

thx RG, makes sense now

Lassie im sorry but your attitude is secretive and deceptive to the public. Most trainers hide behind this cause they dont know themselves cause they are clueless and dont want to embarass themselves. I respect calling the owner obviously first.Have you got a cel phone? huh so betting is out like 3 days before it runs if the owner hasnt backed it by raceday isnt that his problem?? surely the public are entitled as the lifeblood of racing to an honest opinion on raceday. You guys live in a dreamworld - my horse at even money i say whole of sa get on why do i care ? why must only i have a bet? everyone is entitled to have a bet and if its a market priced favourite will start at roughly evens for example so who cares.Your attitude is the very reason i wouldnt give you a horse to train. I respect the trainers who can give a solid opinion and the horse most times runs accordingly. Some of these cakes saying a 12/10 fav has an each way chance and it wins by 6 do me a favour that is a joke.You guys forget who actually supports the sport and until you realise this you will stay in your secretive dreamworld.

Lassies attitude is wny racing is fcuked in this country,us snd them,keep the punters in the dark,she wnt have a job in hong kong, stinks of the miller saga

Is it brugman or jooste who wants you to keep quiet lassie?

lassie Wrote:

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> If Gav interviews me for tellytrack on the day of
> the race or before the race, the connections would
> of already been told long before race day!!! I am
> not here to work my ass of 365 days a year to tip
> to anyone, that's not my job, that's Gavins! Like
> I said prior to this, the info I gave the
> connections is their priority, what they do with
> this information afterward is entirely up to them,
> on race day if gav asks me, I give an honest
> opinion, but in my books there is no thing as a
> sure thing in racing, its my opinion, and its how
> I work.....I certainly will not post what I think
> about my horses on any site, everyone jumping down
> my throat for no reason, so please take it at face
> value.. And let me do my best.

IMO you are entitled to do it the way you want as you are an agent of the owner and under his instructions, nobody has a "RIGHT " to know" it is the prerogative of the trainer/owner to give info, like some of them do on this forum, and we thank them for that, but to say a person MUST give info is not on

BUT

IF you do decide that you are willing to give info then that info must not be misleading, it must be what you believe and if the horse show a lot and the whole jockey room knows the horse has ability so be it, if you feel, after taking a lot of things in consideration, first time on the track, is he going to bring his work to the track etc and you believe it has a chance but you really are not sure if it will win then i agree to say "it will run a place", as no horse is a certainty, but if you know in your heart as a trainer that the horse can not lose then you should tell the truth, or not say anything, as it is your choice what you want to divulge about the horse.

But some times the trainers are not even sure themselves i used to own horses and in most cases when my horses won I had more confidence than the trainer and then their were times that the trainer expected a big run and the horse runs last.

As a punter I rely on my own knowledge and do not phone anybody for info I do listen what is said on the forum and tellycrap and then place my bets, win or lose it is still my decision.

My biggest thrill is to find the outsider, back it and then listen to the trainer/ owner / jockey give all the the reason why they are surprised the horse won and I can have the satisfaction of finding a winner they couldn't even find

TO ME THAT IS THE THRILL OFF RACING

Soodum,give her a break now,think she has got the picture,plus she is only the assistant now

how can you give this lady a hard time for looking after the owners? i do not understand what this problem can be? all the punters and i am one of you are entitle to is the computerform where you can see what is what every one can see. the owner pay the bills, lassie is 100 per sent to give the info, if the owner share lucky for us. also i want to say that because the trainer say the horse is well do not mean it will run well the biggest looses i make are on the jockey and trainer info

Well must i ask markus jooste to tell his staff to catch a wake up and treat punters with respect,maybe he s too busy to notice his staff using his horses for their personal betting opportunities

mr so dumb what do you now of mr jooste? do you think the man who has so much money care if the horse is punt or not? stop being like all the others and all the problem is jooste. the problem is your mind that think racing owe you some thing. racing owe you, me and all the punters fuck all.