Cavlitsa

The horse is working well and they expect to win from what i hear - looks like the blind school to me

clueless stable please Bushy dont want to hear anything from Spies they are clueless

Did my gonads listening to this one ... Just didn't want to be the only one that didn't back it when the champagne was popped :S

Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:

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> Breeding and stats of the horse Calvlitsa
> Half brother by Al Mufti and trained by Roy Magner
> ran 7 races.....no win and average of 21,11 lenghs
> behind winner in 7 starts
>
> www.formgrids.org/subscriber/fgHorseHist.as
> px?b=y&hs=MOLTEN%20LAVA,ZA
>
> Half brother by National Emblem ,owned by Jooste
> and kie trained by J Ramsden ran 7 times in
> capetown for 2 places then was send to the ultra
> reliable Tara Laiing in PE who won 2 races and a
> place in 3 races.....
>
> www.formgrids.org/subscriber/fgHorseHist.as
> px?b=y&hs=STARS%20AND%20STRIPES,ZA
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> Not that top sort of breeding and results you
> want to see in the next big champion ......Lets
> hope that Captain Al really turned this mare's
> fortunes around......no brainer if you seen that
> why Barry sold the Horse asap.....he dont take
> chances with unreliable mares.... lets see if he
> was that 1% not correct

Obviously Barry dont make mistakes.....the mare proven very very unreliable.....she had a champ very long time ago but nothing of note since when formgrids started updating the pedigrees of the foals of mares that raced....well done Barry,good call and you made your money....

maybe you can send Barry your picks for the RTR sale

I was discussing the same issue with a couple of mates from ABC.

I think I might have posted this comment before.

Cavlista......Bred buy Team Valor.
If it was so good then why did they sell.

Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:

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> Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
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> > Breeding and stats of the horse Calvlitsa
> > Half brother by Al Mufti and trained by Roy
> Magner
> > ran 7 races.....no win and average of 21,11
> lenghs
> > behind winner in 7 starts
> >
> >
> www.formgrids.org/subscriber/fgHorseHist.as
>
> > px?b=y&hs=MOLTEN%20LAVA,ZA
> >
> > Half brother by National Emblem ,owned by
> Jooste
> > and kie trained by J Ramsden ran 7 times in
> > capetown for 2 places then was send to the
> ultra
> > reliable Tara Laiing in PE who won 2 races and
> a
> > place in 3 races.....
> >
> >
> www.formgrids.org/subscriber/fgHorseHist.as
>
> > px?b=y&hs=STARS%20AND%20STRIPES,ZA
> >
> > Not that top sort of breeding and results you
> > want to see in the next big champion ......Lets
> > hope that Captain Al really turned this mare's
> > fortunes around......no brainer if you seen
> that
> > why Barry sold the Horse asap.....he dont take
> > chances with unreliable mares.... lets see if
> he
> > was that 1% not correct
>
> Obviously Barry dont make mistakes.....the mare
> proven very very unreliable.....she had a champ
> very long time ago but nothing of note since
> when formgrids started updating the pedigrees of
> the foals of mares that raced....well done
> Barry,good call and you made your money....

From what I know Dr M Thomson owned the mare and bred Cataloochee (a champion three-year-old) I presume the horse was in foal when Northfields bought her in 2009 at a dispersal sale. Team Valor is the breeder of only this foal not the previous foals so it seems that Mr Irwin bought only recently. If she was so unreliable why did Barry buy her?

Let's not cry if we backed Cavlista. It was tipped here with the best of intentions. Its our decision whether to follow information or not. Pointless making Bushy feel guilty.
We'll always want to know about first timers that are rumoured to be good. Then, it's a process of weighing up the price/stable/jockey and deciding whether to wager or not.
Can't someone find out about Woodruff first timers before the betting ? Lol - then we would be in business !!

Agree
Put this thread to rest.

I think she will be back !

Imo if she was ready today she shoulda started 8/10 !

100 % Solo. Spies stable would have put lights out. We await next run with great interest!

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
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> > Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
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> > > Breeding and stats of the horse Calvlitsa
> > > Half brother by Al Mufti and trained by Roy
> > Magner
> > > ran 7 races.....no win and average of 21,11
> > lenghs
> > > behind winner in 7 starts
> > >
> > >
> >
> www.formgrids.org/subscriber/fgHorseHist.as
>
> >
> > > px?b=y&hs=MOLTEN%20LAVA,ZA
> > >
> > > Half brother by National Emblem ,owned by
> > Jooste
> > > and kie trained by J Ramsden ran 7 times in
> > > capetown for 2 places then was send to the
> > ultra
> > > reliable Tara Laiing in PE who won 2 races
> and
> > a
> > > place in 3 races.....
> > >
> > >
> >
> www.formgrids.org/subscriber/fgHorseHist.as
>
> >
> > > px?b=y&hs=STARS%20AND%20STRIPES,ZA
> > >
> > > Not that top sort of breeding and results
> you
> > > want to see in the next big champion
> ......Lets
> > > hope that Captain Al really turned this
> mare's
> > > fortunes around......no brainer if you seen
> > that
> > > why Barry sold the Horse asap.....he dont
> take
> > > chances with unreliable mares.... lets see if
> > he
> > > was that 1% not correct
> >
> > Obviously Barry dont make mistakes.....the mare
> > proven very very unreliable.....she had a champ
> > very long time ago but nothing of note since
> > when formgrids started updating the pedigrees
> of
> > the foals of mares that raced....well done
> > Barry,good call and you made your money....
>
> From what I know Dr M Thomson owned the mare and
> bred Cataloochee (a champion three-year-old) I
> presume the horse was in foal when Northfields
> bought her in 2009 at a dispersal sale. Team
> Valor is the breeder of only this foal not the
> previous foals so it seems that Mr Irwin bought
> only recently. If she was so unreliable why did
> Barry buy her?


barry is a businessman,loves his horses and make money with his horses...selling or breeding or racing.....Barry started with almost nothing and have build an empire....just think how much value his name gives a horse....it doesnt make the horse better,just gives the horse so much more value....something like Richard Branson with his Virgin Trademark...Barry will sell the other offspring also for millions .....he know how to make money