ANABOLIC STEROIDS

the good Wrote:

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> U will see a lot of horses lose form and
> disappear.but it is such a big timespan one won't
> really notice

Stats will show the offenders.....

They should have banned them and given a 40 day grace period as per their current rules, which say a trainer can't run a horse for 40 days after an Anabolic has been administered. Amazing!!!

the good Wrote:

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> They should have banned them and given a 40 day
> grace period as per their current rules, which say
> a trainer can't run a horse for 40 days after an
> Anabolic has been administered. Amazing!!!


My whole take....laws are only as good as the prosecutions.....
I foresee a dip....and then they'll transgress again....because they can get away with it...
I'll love to be proved wrong.....

Are the suppliers of horse-flesh, the BREEDERS exempt from using the good muscle-building goodies.-

The main thing people don't realize as regards Anabolics which has not been researched but I have noticed is that they seem somehow to reduce the immune systems capacity and its far easier the pick up a virus when on them and if continue whilst the virus is still labored in the body it takes much longer for the body to get rid of the virus.

The story goes like this

1) Trainers ageed Nationally, to the banning of steroids, once we heard that it was being considered. NHA, however, made this decision on their own and it is a good decision. You will note that this rule change has come about since we have started the classification of substances issue.
2)We must be clear on what difference the new rule will put on things. At present, steroids are prohibited and, for instance, there was a recent positive for testosterone. This resulted in a hefty fine. With the banning of steroids, we will now be subject to warning off.
3)There is a limited therapeutic need for steroids. An example is after gelding certain horses. Under the new rules, your vet applies to the NHA vet, giving reasons etc. NHA vet now oversees the administration and the horse may not run for a prescibed period.
4)Overall, we do not have a lot of positives in SA. To generalise and jump to conclusions that Trainers are on the steroid or "dope" brigade as such, is a lot of nonsense.
5)Currently, NHA are working hard, together with our National Trainers body on the reclassification of drugs. The process is well advanced right now. Basically, we will be up to speed with International standards, once completed. The foundation of this issue is that Trainers believe that actual dope artists are getting the same fines as minor or non performance enhancing type offences, eg a trace of penecillin after gelding a few weeks back etc.

A lot of progress has been made on this very complex issue and there will definitely be an announcement in this regard, once finalised. The bottom line will be that performance enhancing positives will result in severe penalties and/or warning off.

louisg Wrote:

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> The story goes like this
>
> 1) Trainers ageed Nationally, to the banning of
> steroids, once we heard that it was being
> considered. NHA, however, made this decision on
> their own and it is a good decision. You will note
> that this rule change has come about since we have
> started the classification of substances issue.
> 2)We must be clear on what difference the new rule
> will put on things. At present, steroids are
> prohibited and, for instance, there was a recent
> positive for testosterone. This resulted in a
> hefty fine. With the banning of steroids, we will
> now be subject to warning off.
> 3)There is a limited therapeutic need for
> steroids. An example is after gelding certain
> horses. Under the new rules, your vet applies to
> the NHA vet, giving reasons etc. NHA vet now
> oversees the administration and the horse may not
> run for a prescibed period.
> 4)Overall, we do not have a lot of positives in
> SA. To generalise and jump to conclusions that
> Trainers are on the steroid or "dope" brigade as
> such, is a lot of nonsense.
> 5)Currently, NHA are working hard, together with
> our National Trainers body on the reclassification
> of drugs. The process is well advanced right now.
> Basically, we will be up to speed with
> International standards, once completed. The
> foundation of this issue is that Trainers believe
> that actual dope artists are getting the same
> fines as minor or non performance enhancing type
> offences, eg a trace of penecillin after gelding a
> few weeks back etc.
>
> A lot of progress has been made on this very
> complex issue and there will definitely be an
> announcement in this regard, once finalised. The
> bottom line will be that performance enhancing
> positives will result in severe penalties and/or
> warning off.

I think that fines should be dropped completely and rather the license of the trainer suspended for a period of time - starting with one month - In that time the trainer should not be allowed to nominate but can work his horses. Also the owner should not be penalized for a positive unless he was party to it - How can an owner be held accountable for drugs administrated by his trainer and vet unless he knew they were illegal. The owner has not passed the trainer's exam or Vet's exam so why he is the big loser is beyond me!!

Yeah Mr H especially as most of these positives are not performance enhancing. England gives a nominal fine and no change of result for minor infringements.

Now what about all the yearlings at the sales, are they going to be tested before the sales too ? Iv'e seen some lovely yearlings at the sales which seem to look worse a few months later !

grandstand jock Wrote:

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> Now what about all the yearlings at the sales, are
> they going to be tested before the sales too ?
> Iv'e seen some lovely yearlings at the sales which
> seem to look worse a few months later !


Surely a must!! I think roids at an early age would be far worse than later when in training - Breeders surely have a responsibility too - I wonder if the TBA will make a statement as they should

Muhtiman wrote:

No James.....it is to allow those who are in possession of the stuff to get it sold/used up....mighty sporting of the NHRA to give those who chose to train with the needle a bit of grace but they should never have sanctioned it in the first place.....:X

BUMP

I see that the ill-fated MOGOK MASTER has a colt running in the 4th for his owner and Matchett. This horse and another were the subject of the Paul Peter record breaking fine. The stallion never reproduced his form after an enforced year ban ...i think he covered only a few mares and then died of cancer i believe .

2.1 two contraventions of Rule 74.1 in that specimens taken from the horse MOGOK MASTER and from the horse FORT EMBER, at his racing stables at Summerveld on 20 July 2015, were found, upon analysis, to contain testosterone propionate, a forbidden substance in terms of Rule 74.2