ANABOLIC STEROIDS
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13 years 5 months ago
Theres lots of accusations but wheres the proof? Its like me saying all punters knew andrew fortune was in shirley krugers back pocket in his heyday,saw him @ her tatts lots of times but that does not prove anything
Ps,pls dnt go on a rampage now titch just using an example
Ps,pls dnt go on a rampage now titch just using an example
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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
i have just lost a dog that was on prednisone for about two years - she needed the drug as she had an autoimmune disease - her kidneys packed in and she developed stomach ulcers - i'm no chemist but seeing the damage that my dog went through please don't give your horse steriods unless they need them for health reasons not to bulk up -
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13 years 5 months ago
soodum Wrote:
> J pegg,why wnt you reveal the scoundrels? If it
> exists and you seem so passionate about horse
> racing dnt you think that the right thing to do is
> to expose the dirt?without proof it will carry on
> and the nhra can simply say show us the proof or
> go away
The ostriches don't want to know, they do not know how to handle the scandal.
The skulldugery has little to do with doping but other issues in the racing industry.
There is no place nor grace for whistle blowers, no hero status either and as they
say in the classics-the show must go on. I doubt if this thread, website or key racing
people will ever get any sort of comment from the NHA. What I can confirm is that
some house keeping outside the NHA is taking place as a good few people that were
involved with dodgy practices have witnessed the power of the blogg and have cleaned
up their acts for fear of being fingered.
> J pegg,why wnt you reveal the scoundrels? If it
> exists and you seem so passionate about horse
> racing dnt you think that the right thing to do is
> to expose the dirt?without proof it will carry on
> and the nhra can simply say show us the proof or
> go away
The ostriches don't want to know, they do not know how to handle the scandal.
The skulldugery has little to do with doping but other issues in the racing industry.
There is no place nor grace for whistle blowers, no hero status either and as they
say in the classics-the show must go on. I doubt if this thread, website or key racing
people will ever get any sort of comment from the NHA. What I can confirm is that
some house keeping outside the NHA is taking place as a good few people that were
involved with dodgy practices have witnessed the power of the blogg and have cleaned
up their acts for fear of being fingered.
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- F1XER
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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
J-Pegged Wrote:
> Why should other people be doing that job, when
> there are paid proffesionals not doing their jobs.
> We have blogged and highlighted one individual on
> this very site. Got done for a maiden winner in
> KZN using a bulking steriod yet had several
> positives waiting for 2nd sample testing. No news
> after 10 months????We even have a few posters
> singing the trainer's praises and touting him to
> be the next Terrance Millard.
More than one confirmed of hearing there 'were' originally 'MULTIPLE' positives, this also coming from within. Who says this may still not come up? Seems to be lot more to this. Was there not a KZN trainer who looked after the string, could shed some light on this too.
> Why should other people be doing that job, when
> there are paid proffesionals not doing their jobs.
> We have blogged and highlighted one individual on
> this very site. Got done for a maiden winner in
> KZN using a bulking steriod yet had several
> positives waiting for 2nd sample testing. No news
> after 10 months????We even have a few posters
> singing the trainer's praises and touting him to
> be the next Terrance Millard.
More than one confirmed of hearing there 'were' originally 'MULTIPLE' positives, this also coming from within. Who says this may still not come up? Seems to be lot more to this. Was there not a KZN trainer who looked after the string, could shed some light on this too.
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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
Imagine the predicament of the NHA having to disqualify a graded race winner!!!!!
Or simply admitting that using STERIODS is OK!!!!!
Or simply admitting that using STERIODS is OK!!!!!
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- Mac
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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
A few decades ago Kwiktan was disqualified after skating clear in the SA Derby. Kwiktan was trained by Heming.
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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
Not sure it was drugs? did Jean not have lions maybe she used in her training method to make them skate clear?
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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
mrs heming was caught and fined many times for doping in distance races.i didnt follow tvl racing but im sure i read abt it in newspapers.r van wyk was a jock she used often and wen the money was down it was pay pay.
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13 years 5 months ago
This is the real crux of the problem of steriods and race doping.....breeders in the day would never touch race mares from Mrs Hemming or Barnard because they were f@cked....our studbooks are filled with bigger zeros where other grand racemares with tons of black type failed to produce in breeding barns......:S...some people were convinced that RSA is a gr8 place to buy drug free bloodstock and now the lid is coming off the pot....:

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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
Heming was a serial "doper",i suspect thats why she ran away to england and opened a riding school
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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
No Mrs Heming was a GR8 trainer, the shit she was using could never have improved anything....:S Suprised anything won at all
She mentioned the crap in an interview with Freeracer....
She mentioned the crap in an interview with Freeracer....

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Re: Re: ANABOLIC STEROIDS
13 years 5 months ago
Its called nano technology & bio chemistry, a subset of chemical engineering.
We change the chemical make up of plants, fruit, cattle, humans and race horses.
It is here to stay and will become more sophisticated in years to come.
We all know that we have genetically modified plants, we grow most vegetables on steriods in hydroponic tunnels, we change the DNA of human blood cells to absorb more
oxygen, which allows a human to stay as long as 30 min under water with one
breath.
Why not accept that future race horses will all be chemical engineered machines.
It is like a tunami, we cannot stop it.
This does not imply I agree with the chemical engineering of race horses.
We change the chemical make up of plants, fruit, cattle, humans and race horses.
It is here to stay and will become more sophisticated in years to come.
We all know that we have genetically modified plants, we grow most vegetables on steriods in hydroponic tunnels, we change the DNA of human blood cells to absorb more
oxygen, which allows a human to stay as long as 30 min under water with one
breath.
Why not accept that future race horses will all be chemical engineered machines.
It is like a tunami, we cannot stop it.
This does not imply I agree with the chemical engineering of race horses.
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