Re:WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 5 months ago
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Scotia, when last have you checked what a litre of diesel\unleaded cost at the pumps? To transport horses too and fro, at times a 200 mile round trip, costs a fortune. Not many trainers have yards near Newcastle. Southwell will have a lot of entries as it’s in Nottinghamshire so it’s pretty central

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 5 months ago
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Point taken Chicken

Getting back to FP that is another reason in the negative, the famous or infamous bus trip was approx 1000 klms round trip from joburg with all its drama.
Plus transportation of horses.

It has to be a no-go sorry 😞

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 5 months ago
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On another note OZ Harness trainer Dean Braun and Harness driver Chris Alford raided on Sunday past from Victoria, OZ, to Hobart, Tasmania with one runner only. A distance of over 800 kms.
The odds on pop won easily returning 1.30 on the Tote, A lot better than the 1 rand money back on the Crawford runner on Queens Plate day.
The Ozzie raider's trip involved a ferry across the Bass Straits to Devonport.
Interesting trip.

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 5 months ago
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What is a good idea as previously mentioned would be fun/family days at Randjies.

That's the way to go IMVHO 🤟

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago
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I have seen the multitude of pleas to re-open the groot gat and agree with Dave this will not happen. There is more chance of the Vaal sand re-opening I mean at least the track is owned by the operator - Kimberley got sold and from what I have been told, it is being used for other horsey activities. The NHA were conspicuous by their absence in policing Kimberley and that is the major reason that we had all the doping and abuse of horses. The old Kimberley trainers can cry me a river, facts are facts. That center had a shameful record in that regard.

Keep it closed it is not needed.

Couldn't agree more - and it's actually quite disturbing to see so many calls for the venue to be re-instated. I see Futura posted a link to a previously reported guilty finding of what is tantamount to extreme horse abuse. How ironic that that particular individual then had the stones to attack a poster on Sporting Post yesterday :

Please do not generalise all from flamingo park as being villians. Have your facts right and name the people . Unfortunately you do get bad appels in a bag at times. Kimberley has a definate place in racing. Yes i would return tomorrow and so would all owners previously involved.

There are 2 other incidents involving other trainers that come to mind immediately - one for doping and another for blatant animal cruelty.

This is not a venue that puts the horse first - never has never will ........
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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 2 months ago
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Keep an eye out for a notice in registration and licenses

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 2 months ago
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has he moved from PE to Gauteng?

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 1 month ago
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see he got a stiff fine of 18k

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 1 month ago
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On that note, and I apologize if I have the wrong person, but did our leading trainer in RSA at present not have a alleged or substantial fine issued to him a few years back, cant recall the exact details.

If I have the wrong end of the stick, then I sincerely apologize for any wrong doing on my part.

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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

3 years 1 month ago
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Correct...
2016 R650 000 fine for testosterone

The Inquiry Board however found him guilty as charged.

Although the contravention of Rule 74.1 related to two separate specimens, the Board treated both charges as one for the purpose of penalty and imposed a fine of R400,000.00.

Although the contravention of Rule 10.5.16.5 related to two incidents, the Board treated both charges as one for the purpose of penalty and imposed a fine of R200,000.00.

In respect of the contravention of Rule 72.1.18, the Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R50,000.00, of which R20,000.00 is to be suspended for a period of two years on condition that Mr Peter is not found guilty of a further contravention of Rule 72.1.18 over that period.
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Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

2 years 1 month ago
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As per Sportingpost article

www.sportingpost.co.za/horse-racing/prej...iekerk-gets-10-days/

As published in the Vaal Stipes report of 4 May 2023, trainer Jaap Visser signed an admission of guilt for a contravention of Rule 10.5.1 in that he failed to provide a reasonable level of care to the horses under his control, by not providing them with sufficient bedding.

A penalty of a warning was imposed.

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Re: Re:WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

2 years 1 month ago
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And he still gets to train??? After all the history??

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