Fairview Monday

Tappa wrote:

Len Sham wrote: Tappa so you calling all the trainers liars because the horse's run better than anticipated... poor losers always find reasons why their is funny business in all results not in their favour.

No, only when they shorten in the betting. You see many horses winning at big prices where the trainer didn't fancy them, nothing wrong with it, it happens. It the pulling wool over our eyes I have a problem with.

Len Sham wrote:

Tappa wrote:

Len Sham wrote: Tappa so you calling all the trainers liars because the horse's run better than anticipated... poor losers always find reasons why their is funny business in all results not in their favour.

No, only when they shorten in the betting. You see many horses winning at big prices where the trainer didn't fancy them, nothing wrong with it, it happens. It the pulling wool over our eyes I have a problem with.

and only the stable money shortens the price not shrewdies like yourself..

Tappa wrote:

Len Sham wrote:

Tappa wrote:

Len Sham wrote: Tappa so you calling all the trainers liars because the horse's run better than anticipated... poor losers always find reasons why their is funny business in all results not in their favour.

No, only when they shorten in the betting. You see many horses winning at big prices where the trainer didn't fancy them, nothing wrong with it, it happens. It the pulling wool over our eyes I have a problem with.

and only the stable money shortens the price not shrewdies like yourself..

It was obviously someone who knew it wouldn't need the run, but luckily it didn't win!

Tappa wrote:

Len Sham wrote:

Dean321 wrote: Hi Len Sham

Your comments on here is always appreciated. Do not let the odd few create a bitter perception about everyone else. I rather have some sort of angle than none. Regardless if it works out or not. The working out bit on your comments far out ways the reverse.

Cheers for your comments I appreciate them. Likewise with other owners/trainers/breeders etc.

my comments are my opinion only . To have a go at the trainer about the comments is uncalled for.

Len, i had a go at the comments that was posted early in the morning with the exotics, not what you post/fancy. I don't know if it's the trainer/assistant trainer or stable employees who gives the comments, but whoever did it lied through their teeth. The horse was 14to1 and ended up at 7to1 and 2nd favorite on the tote paying R6.60 a win and R2,10 a place. Somebody/ a few people obviously tried to pull a coup, because the horse was cherry ripe and nearly won the race. The pre-race comments was " 2nd run after a gelding which he took bad and will need the run". The same goes for the comment on the Paddock horse which won, "she will probably need the run", but she shortens from 22to10 to 14to10 and shits in??? Its better not to comment on your runners than to mislead the public.

Solotrama wrote:

Tappa wrote:

Len Sham wrote:

Dean321 wrote: Hi Len Sham

Your comments on here is always appreciated. Do not let the odd few create a bitter perception about everyone else. I rather have some sort of angle than none. Regardless if it works out or not. The working out bit on your comments far out ways the reverse.

Cheers for your comments I appreciate them. Likewise with other owners/trainers/breeders etc.

my comments are my opinion only . To have a go at the trainer about the comments is uncalled for.

Len, i had a go at the comments that was posted early in the morning with the exotics, not what you post/fancy. I don't know if it's the trainer/assistant trainer or stable employees who gives the comments, but whoever did it lied through their teeth. The horse was 14to1 and ended up at 7to1 and 2nd favorite on the tote paying R6.60 a win and R2,10 a place. Somebody/ a few people obviously tried to pull a coup, because the horse was cherry ripe and nearly won the race. The pre-race comments was " 2nd run after a gelding which he took bad and will need the run". The same goes for the comment on the Paddock horse which won, "she will probably need the run", but she shortens from 22to10 to 14to10 and shits in??? Its better not to comment on your runners than to mislead the public.

Tappa you assume the comments are a lie because the horse shortened. Anybody can have a bet on the horse . In this case one of my mates had a full go on Dutch harbour he fired the horse a win and a place with three bookmakers and landed many place multiples .

Solotrama wrote: the point is others had a bet and not necessarily the stable so you can't point fingers at the yard giving out "misleading" info !

Tappa wrote:

Solotrama wrote: the point is others had a bet and not necessarily the stable so you can't point fingers at the yard giving out "misleading" info !

No, the point is that the stable did in fact give misleading info. The horses didn't need the run, end of that! The same goes for the Michelin man's filly who won earlier in the day when "she should need the run"

Len Sham wrote: Tappa put your real name on here and don't hide behind your alias then it may have more credence... obviously you have an axe to grind with certain P/E trainers ..