How much should we be betting
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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago
Nice post WP. I would say - take your good days and the bad as it happens as both will occur. Off course your wager should be one that you can afford. Gambling ain't for cry babies.
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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago
Just read Cnoc post again and i understand what u mean budd. Lol.
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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago
Be disciplined enough to walk away after a winning bet gets you into positive for the day...even if it is the first bet of the day, learn to walk away whilst ahead...and set a limit of what amount you can lose for the day before walking away...for me it is 20% of opening balance and then three consecutive losing bets (20% of limit (20% of opening balance), then 31,2% of limit and then 48,8% of limit)...
Happy punting to all Clanners...
Happy punting to all Clanners...
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10 years 3 months ago
100%...discipline is the achillies heel for most punters, we re-invest our winnings and start chasing when we losing. What we dont realise is even if you turn a profit of R300 for the day its not bad at all when you look at the bigger picture R300 per day for 1 month will supplement your income by over 8k. Well thats the theory, its not easy but its not impossible!
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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago
One of the most difficult things to do in this game is. Never chase your loses. I know how difficult it is as you want to get your money back after a loss but it seldom ever comes right.
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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago
Always remember when you press submit or hand your money over the counter at the bookies it no longer belongs to you ...
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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago
If the pain of losing R500 is not easily outweighed by the joy of a winning R500, perhaps it's time to quit gambling

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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago
this thread shows how punters view things differently..for me value is everything when it comes to punting ,,I study a race and if I like a horse I price up on the race and if the horse I want to back is shorter than the price I have made it I stay out but if bigger or the same I have a bet ...
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10 years 3 months agopirates wrote: this thread shows how punters view things differently..for me value is everything when it comes to punting ,,I study a race and if I like a horse I price up on the race and if the horse I want to back is shorter than the price I have made it I stay out but if bigger or the same I have a bet ...
That theory sounds great pirates, but in practice is it easy to follow? How do you know that the price you have set for a horse is correct? Maybe your methods are faulty?
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10 years 3 months agoEnglander wrote: A lot of this boils down to interpretation of the word value.
Would I have backed (just an example!!!) Kingsley at 5/1? No. Add a zero and it looks like it COULD be value.
I pick a minimum of my 1-2-3 in just about every race, reckon my second selections probably win as much as my first selections. You can never be certain you are backing a winner so my first choice is 7/2 and my second choice is 12/1... which is the better value? I won a fair few rands on Enchanting Lass at 12/1 despite thinking Grey Area at around 7/2 was the likely winner (9.5l 3rd). For me, it is about assessing the race, having, for example, your 1-2-3 with a good idea of how convinced you are that will be the finishing order and then checking the prices... if you feel it is going to be a fairly open race and the prices are 3/1 twice and 25/1 on your 3rd selection, imo do your main bet on the 25/1 shot even though it is only your 3rd selection.
But that is just me.
In my daily race by race selections I give 6 selections per race(for quartet purposes) so after finding the 6 for each I'll than check the betting and decide from there who I think is a Long shot or a VB...example would be GOLDIVA today...easily my best LS and 5/1 a place is like free money..So in a way we do the same thing basically...only difference you pick only 3!Works well this way for me...its like letting us picks show you who is the Value in the race.
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10 years 3 months agoWinning_Post wrote: I agree too with D-17, Titch has assesed the criteria very nicely iro risk versus reward. Objective for most of us here is simply to turn a profit, for me personally a small profit on a bad day is just as good as a big profit on good day, sometimes breaking evens feels just as good. The industry exists simply because there are many more losers than winners, it's like a BIG wheel and eventually we all get our turn... If all info was good and we all won all the time racing would be a distant memory very quickly.
So to answer your question, how much should we be betting? The simple answer is rather how much we shouldn't be betting and if you can afford to lose your stake with a smile on your face then that's precisely the right amount...
Rules of Betting for me personally - 1. study form, it pays big time more often than not 2. Bet on places from time to time, you'll find yourself collecting more often than not 3. Win doubles are fine but trebiles are for dummies, most punters can remember every treble they caught 4. Trust your instinct, if something doesn't feel right, keep your dough in your pocket! You'll be a winner either way 5. Infomation is for idiots!!!! Trainers/jockeys/agents and owners can sing the blues about how good their horse is and how he/she cannot be beaten, you should stand in the mirror and kick your own ass if you've had a bet on assumptions, I've spoken and spent many hours with all the top trainers/jockeys and the honest one's, lol... They will tell you that their runner has a chance etc etc... But they just can't with any certainty state their horse will defintely win! It's a trainers assessment of the competition versus how the runner is handicapped and their work back home 6. Avoid juvenile races 7. Unless necessary, try and avoid maiden winners, very rarely they win two on the trot unless they are special sorts 8. Never, Never, Never back horses that have been backed a day or two before, they just don't win, the horses backed 5 minutes before off are usually the right ones, i.e. Look at Urgent Fury today, very good example and he didn't have a prayer against the winner, bookies claims are also calculated into turnover and some punters actually fall for this betting scandal 9. Never exceed your budget and last but not least 10. Be disciplined, stop after your win, tomorrow is another day, assess the remainder of the meeting with your predictions and make notes on runners for next time, these yield big profits when they run again.
Brilliantly said,especially #5!Too a certain extend I do disagree abt the 1st time out ta the maidens run...as that is where some serious Value is to be had.Some trainers have perfected the art of placing recent maiden winners well...Tarry/Woodruff comes to mind...decent maiden winners they place in Mr80-84 handicaps to get a light weight.Some other trainers stick to the 70-74 range...if paying closer attention 1 can easily find 5-7 outta 10 maidens coming out to win at reasonable prices every month...all abt the homework
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Re: How much should we be betting
10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months agopirates wrote: this thread shows how punters view things differently..for me value is everything when it comes to punting ,,I study a race and if I like a horse I price up on the race and if the horse I want to back is shorter than the price I have made it I stay out but if bigger or the same I have a bet ...
Absolutely spot on ...................
The posts here show some of the issues which make winning so difficult!
the initial posts are correct except they are based on the fact that they are assessed after the result is known.The REAL value is the winner is 100% and all others ,nil............simple.........if you had that knowledge when you placed your bet!!!!!
When bets are placed there is only a perceived value and that is what punting profitably is all about.........how close you can align perceived value to REAL value!
To all those who think the value aspect is nonsense, I can assure you that if you keep backing horses with a 20% chance of winning at an average of 3/1 you will lose over time ........one good bet or one good day,does not make a successful punter ....................but hey, to each their own!
The very sad fact is, that everytime you get advice from a punter, there is a 95% chance its from a loser.................lol :lol:
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