Futura ...

ShezaPunter Wrote:

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> To be honest, I rather have A horse like Futura(on
> the up, booom horse, who can run) than a horse
> past his sell by date, but gets in coz of. His
> high merit rating. I would remove, as it stands
> from the top 20, Punta Arenas, Jet explorer, royal
> Zulu warrior,no worries. These horse all had their
> go, and proved no that good. JetEx was in the form
> of his life last season and ran 6th I think and
> has done notthing since. No worries let me down on
> friday, with a kuk run, RZW won't stay and Punta
> is border line

Agree 100%, its the same old lot again who probably have no chance in winning the race. Maybe an improving 3 yr old or two is the way to go.

With all the hype around Futura gud win on Friday I beg to ask What did it run against?
Me thinks dat Futura will improve but does not necessiatate a July invite.
I'm also of da opinion dat each trainer must only be allowed one entry in da July.

If gothic can make the field last year then futura is a certainty....()

Think you are all getting too excited ()

royal president Wrote:

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> With all the hype around Futura gud win on Friday
> I beg to ask What did it run against?
> Me thinks dat Futura will improve but does not
> necessiatate a July invite.
> I'm also of da opinion dat each trainer must only
> be allowed one entry in da July.


Futura doesn't now or anytime in the past think he will get into the July based on his run on Friday night. It was just another stepping stone to qualify himself for a bigger race between now and the July. If he wins the DN or runs a good race he will get in, simples.

You guys are focusing too much on what happened on Friday. nobody is under the disillusion that Futura should qualify based on that run......

He is top class. Let's wait and see where they go from here.

hibernia Wrote:

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> Think you are all getting too excited ()


Mr H horse racing does dat when a star appears on da horizon remember Captain America appearance on da track

royal president Wrote:

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there are plenty 3yo`s with way better form already on the book,that`s all i`m meaning

I also think Futura can run.... a bit ()

hibernia Wrote:

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> > > Think you are all getting too excited ()
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> I also think Futura can run.... a bit ()


Like you think California Chrome can run a bit

If the connections are smart , they would run him in the cup trial,where should he win he may be the best handicapped horse in the july . Running him in the daily news could be risky (if he wins it or runs close up ) he will be bumped up in mr and
will race off a mass close to the likes of the current top 3yo's .

Solotrama Wrote:

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> If the connections are smart , they would run him
> in the cup trial,where should he win he may be the
> best handicapped horse in the july . Running him
> in the daily news could be risky (if he wins it or
> runs close up ) he will be bumped up in mr and
> will race off a mass close to the likes of the
> current top 3yo's .


I guess your thinking is he may not be bumped as much by running close in the Cup Trial (handicap) than by running close up in the DN - ideally I think (as I mentioned on the 'July Log' thread) they are probably hoping he gets in without another run - personally I doubt that he has done enough, so they may need to run him somewhere - if he does indeed go for the DN and beat the other top 3 yr olds - he may end up giving them weight in the July; but if he gets beaten say 5 lengths, he may not make the final field :S. Either way, I still find it hard to understand why he has shortened so drastically in the betting (currently 3rd favorite above a horse like Yorker who is sure to make the final field) :S :S

So I would agree, his best option is probably the Cup Trial - by winning that I think he would get 'preferential treatment' (like Espumanti for winning the 1900) - would be interesting which way it would go if the final spot in the July has to be decided between these 2 : The winner of the Cup Trial gets automatic entry into the Champions Cup - for what it's worth

L’Ormarins Queen’s Plate (Gr 1) – Kenilworth - 1600m – (Winner: Cape Town Noir)

J&B Met (Gr 1) – Kenilworth - 2000m – (Winner: Hill Fifty Four)

Investec Cape Derby (Gr 1) – Kenilworth - 2000m – (Winner: Legislate)

SA Classic (Gr 1) – Turffontein - 1800m – (Winner: Louis The King)

SA Fillies Classic (Gr 1) – Turffontein - 1800m – (Winner: Athina)

SA Derby (Gr 1) – Turffontein - 2450m

President’s Champions Challenge (Gr 1) – Turffontein - 2000m

Daily News 2000 (Gr 1) – Greyville - 2000m

Woolavington 2000 (Gr 1) – Greyville - 2000m

Rising Sun Gold Challenge (Gr 1) – Clairwood - 1600m



Winners of the following four races (November 2013 to June 2014) will enjoy preferential consideration for inclusion in the final field while the Company also reserves the right to include a maximum of two special invitations at its discretion:-



Sansui Summer Cup (Gr 1) – Turffontein - 2000m

Betting World 1900 (Gr 2) – Greyville - 1900m

Cup Trial (Gr 3) – Clairwood - 1800m

Betting World Jubilee Handicap (Gr 3) – 1800m

four wins in five starts, over three different distances, three different courses and bred to stay even further. impressive so far, will definitely make the July field and probably win it....