Vaal Sand... Thursday 6th February

My race 1 selections in order of preference:
Global Talk / Gems a Plenty / Selazar

Justanotherpunter Wrote:

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> Trippi is statistically the best sand sire.By a
> mile.

May become the best,but it's only been in SA since 2008,the others are more established.
Do like the bloodline though,Forty Niner and Mr Prospector.

One of my pet hates in racing happened again today in Race 1. Backed Royal Stock yesterday now I am subject to a 30c deduction from 2 horses being scratched, which is not a problem it happens, but now a reserve runner comes in at 12/1. Why should I not get the price of the reserve runner credited to me at 10c therefore knocking down my deduction to 20c? Nice win win for the bookies here. :X

shrek Wrote:

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> One of my pet hates in racing happened again today
> in Race 1. Backed Royal Stock yesterday now I am
> subject to a 30c deduction from 2 horses being
> scratched, which is not a problem it happens, but
> now a reserve runner comes in at 12/1. Why should
> I not get the price of the reserve runner credited
> to me at 10c therefore knocking down my deduction
> to 20c? Nice win win for the bookies here. :X

Asked the question months ago Shrek, sheer daylight robbery and completely unacceptable imo but no response or shouts for justice from clanners... makes me wonder sometimes

Not all bookies do it though is my understanding bud, some take into account the price of the reserve

davetheflower Wrote:

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> > Trippi is statistically the best sand sire.By a
> > mile.
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> May become the best,but it's only been in SA since
> 2008,the others are more established.
> Do like the bloodline though,Forty Niner and Mr
> Prospector.


Both Trip pi and Horse chestnut progeny have impressed me last year!soon their foals shall rule

davetheflower Wrote:

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> Justanotherpunter Wrote:
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> > Trippi is statistically the best sand sire.By a
> > mile.
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> May become the best,but it's only been in SA since
> 2008,the others are more established.
> Do like the bloodline though,Forty Niner and Mr
> Prospector.

Trippi is new to the sand,I agree.Merely stating the facts as they currently stand.

Statistically

1)Trippi
2)Tiger Ridge
3)Western Winter

The rest are also rans.

Horse Chestnut's are also doing well,but relatively still early days.

shrek Wrote:

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> One of my pet hates in racing happened again today
> in Race 1. Backed Royal Stock yesterday now I am
> subject to a 30c deduction from 2 horses being
> scratched, which is not a problem it happens, but
> now a reserve runner comes in at 12/1. Why should
> I not get the price of the reserve runner credited
> to me at 10c therefore knocking down my deduction
> to 20c? Nice win win for the bookies here.

If the reserve runner gets scratched you can add another 10 percent, its happened many times before

Justanotherpunter Wrote:

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> > > Trippi is statistically the best sand sire.By
> a
> > > mile.
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> > May become the best,but it's only been in SA
> since
> > 2008,the others are more established.
> > Do like the bloodline though,Forty Niner and Mr
> > Prospector.
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> Trippi is new to the sand,I agree.Merely stating
> the facts as they currently stand.
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> Statistically
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> 1)Trippi
> 2)Tiger Ridge
> 3)Western Winter
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> The rest are also rans.

You can look at it many ways,are you saying by numbers of wins or percentage..
Tiger Ridge will top numbers,but it's produced more runners..

If I had a choice I'd plump for a National Assembly offspring,but that's just my opinion.

Anyway Global Talk and Velvet Verona,tick sire and dam boxes...(tu)

davetheflower Wrote:

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> > > > Trippi is statistically the best sand
> sire.By
> > a
> > > > mile.
> > >
> > > May become the best,but it's only been in SA
> > since
> > > 2008,the others are more established.
> > > Do like the bloodline though,Forty Niner and
> Mr
> > > Prospector.
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> > Trippi is new to the sand,I agree.Merely
> stating
> > the facts as they currently stand.
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> > Statistically
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> > 1)Trippi
> > 2)Tiger Ridge
> > 3)Western Winter
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> > The rest are also rans.
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> You can look at it many ways,are you saying by
> numbers of wins or percentage..
> Tiger Ridge will top numbers,but it's produced
> more runners..
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> If I had a choice I'd plump for a National
> Assembly offspring,but that's just my opinion.
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> Anyway Global Talk and Velvet Verona,tick sire and
> dam boxes...(tu)


Don't like either of NA and WW progeny...as even thou they do act...they habit erratic at best

BATMAN Wrote:

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> > One of my pet hates in racing happened again
> today
> > in Race 1. Backed Royal Stock yesterday now I
> am
> > subject to a 30c deduction from 2 horses being
> > scratched, which is not a problem it happens,
> but
> > now a reserve runner comes in at 12/1. Why
> should
> > I not get the price of the reserve runner
> credited
> > to me at 10c therefore knocking down my
> deduction
> > to 20c? Nice win win for the bookies here.
>
> If the reserve runner gets scratched you can add
> another 10 percent, its happened many times before

and a lot of the prices, especially the longer priced ones, don't even move after the withdrawals... Royal Stock being a very good example, I'm the same as you, backed it yesterday so subject to 15% x 2 deductions and the price now after the withdrawals is still the same as the one I took yesterday. We are basically being penalised for backing the horse early. Tis all farked up I tell you, all farked up lol... huge (td)

Englander Wrote:

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> > > One of my pet hates in racing happened again
> > today
> > > in Race 1. Backed Royal Stock yesterday now I
> > am
> > > subject to a 30c deduction from 2 horses
> being
> > > scratched, which is not a problem it happens,
> > but
> > > now a reserve runner comes in at 12/1. Why
> > should
> > > I not get the price of the reserve runner
> > credited
> > > to me at 10c therefore knocking down my
> > deduction
> > > to 20c? Nice win win for the bookies here.
> >
> > If the reserve runner gets scratched you can
> add
> > another 10 percent, its happened many times
> before
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> and a lot of the prices, especially the longer
> priced ones, don't even move after the
> withdrawals... Royal Stock being a very good
> example, I'm the same as you, backed it yesterday
> so subject to 15% x 2 deductions and the price now
> after the withdrawals is still the same as the one
> I took yesterday. We are basically being penalised
> for backing the horse early. Tis all farked up I
> tell you, all farked up lol... huge (td)


I have backed Royal Stock again this morning because of this and yes at the same price as yesterday, it is just the place price that is slightly lower. I suppose if he wins I will be thanking them for their rules as I will win more than I would have before the scratchings.