Turffontein night 23/10/13

Winning Form & Magic Tips Best Bets - Turffontein Night

Jumpstart/mrs hancock/ilha bela. Fill ur sandals..I mean boots

bayern Wrote:

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> Frodo Wrote:
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> > No rain today - and with another dry day
> predicted
> > for tomorrow, I think we can put all those
> 'loves
> > the soft' nagme's back in the closet; best bet
> for
> > me is Wensleydale in the last - the de Kock
> horse
> > would have to be something very special imo to
> win
> > first time out under the lights; also I don't
> > think Ilha Bela can be beaten at the weights
> (even
> > if she does go up slightly the ratings with a
> win
> > - and she should not really as she is weighted
> to
> > win this - it could just enhance her chances to
> > get a run in the Summer); another one that
> looks
> > hard to beat is Jumpstart in the 2nd - other
> races
> > look competitive imo - especially the two
> features
> > :S
>
> Howzit Frodo, I agree with you on Wendsleydale,
> should run a big race and Jumpstart, I also think
> this one should prove hard to beat. I must
> confess, I'm not so sure about Ilha Bela being
> unbeatable in R4. Donning the infamous egg helmet,
> to me this is not a 11/10 shot, if anything,
> should be a much bigger price in the betting
> market. Whilst she has beaten Straw Market
> carrying the same weight difference as tomorrow,
> and she is a 7 time winner, 6 of those wins have
> been against her own sex. I think everything is
> against her tomorrow night, it will be her second
> run after a 5 month break, coupled with the fact
> that she will jump from the widest gate. If you
> want to back her, wait for time of race, you could
> get double the odds - I don't think this horse can
> shorten in the betting. The bookies obviously see
> it the way you do, hence the 13/2 bar one.


Re Ilha Bela - I think she is value at the current price - I'm hoping that a few people see it the way you do, and that she will drift come race time - I'm not worried at all about the 2nd run after a rest (this is the de Kock stable after all) and over the 1800 stand side the draw is also not that big a factor imo - she ran only 4.5 lengths behind Heavy Metal receiving only 1.5 kg's and while she has disappointed at times, this field does not seem particularly strong - 2nd highest rated Royal Bencher needs to improve big time from his last start to run anywhere near his rating (and is well held by Pierneef on that run); Straw Market at his best does look the main danger imo, but needs to improve on his last 2 efforts, while Master Sabina has yet to prove he is in this league imo. Pierneef has run better than his rating imo last time out and could be the 'dark horse'.

What I will say is that if she does not win tonight, imo she might as well stay in her box for the Summer Cup; would be nice to know the stable's thoughts on her - is she running tonight with the view that she needs to win and perhaps earn a couple of MR points ensuring her a run in the Summer, or are they of the view that she has done enough to get in and therefore this is just a 'keep her ticking along' run :S

I see the money has come for the de Kock first timer in the last, so they obviously think a lot of her - but the price on Wensleydale has remained around 3/1 ; for me W has been looking for the standside track and being drawn 3 while Square Dance is out at 11, I'm still siding with W.

Treble
Jumpstart win
Genuine Leather win
Wensleydale place

Anyone tell me where I can find the pen reading/scratchings etc as sahorseracing seems to have changed to being of no use at all

Englander Wrote:

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> Anyone tell me where I can find the pen
> reading/scratchings etc as sahorseracing seems to
> have changed to being of no use at all


I haven't been able to get into sahorseracing from around noon yesterday.

shrek Wrote:

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> > Anyone tell me where I can find the pen
> > reading/scratchings etc as sahorseracing seems
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> I haven't been able to get into sahorseracing from
> around noon yesterday.

Hit the usual link this morning mate and it takes you to Gallop, no disrespect to them but not the information required and imo much better card guides about. Nowhere else give the pen etc info?

PS I read you don't like it but MIGHT be some value to be found on the beach racing morrow, if you can look past the jockeys.

Not doing jottings though, it was taking forever as had to check jockey form as much as I was checking horse form! lol

gregbucks Wrote:

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> Treble
> Jumpstart win
> Genuine Leather win
> Wensleydale place

why that was put over 1450m is beyond me - that's a sprinter and I think 1200m far enough - she should win tonight

Jackpot R1800 TURFFONTEIN
Leg 1 : Race 4 [3, 5, 8, 11, 12, 13]
Leg 2 : Race 5 [1, 2, 5, 8, 9]
Leg 3 : Race 6 [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13]
Leg 4 : Race 7 [1, 3, 5, 8, 9]

Englander Wrote:

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> Anyone tell me where I can find the pen
> reading/scratchings etc as sahorseracing seems to
> have changed to being of no use at all


From TABGOLD - no pen reading though:

Scratched
Race Number - Name
1 11 - LUCKY MOJO
3 1 - STRONG SCENT
4 - TEMPS PERDU
8 12 - STORM LILY


Equipment Changes
Race Number - Change
5 5 - With Pacifiers, No Tongue Tied


Shoe Changes
Race Number Change
2 8 Unshod
3 2 Steel


Jockey Changes
Race Number - Change
1 2 - A. Aucharuz
17 - Sherman Brown

4 11 - Raymond Danielson

6 8 - To be advised

7 3 - Marco van Rensburg

8 11 - Keegan Latham

Blouperd Wrote:

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> Jackpot R1800 TURFFONTEIN
> Leg 1 : Race 4 [3, 5, 8, 11, 12, 13]
> Leg 2 : Race 5 [1, 2, 5, 8, 9]
> Leg 3 : Race 6 [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12,
> 13]
> Leg 4 : Race 7 [1, 3, 5, 8, 9]
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How come you leave out only Jet Fever in leg 3 - just wondering :S

Frodo Wrote:

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Thanks mate. Does it never give the pen reading or is it an exception?

Surely there is somewhere "official" where this info is provided... no?