Gauteng eTolls Make No Sense

here's SOME SENSE (FROM nEWS24 COMMENTS):




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Piccky Wockky - October 12, 2013 at 07:04

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A method of legally delaying e-toll payments is extremely simple, yet completely successful, and wholly legal.
1) After the first 4-6 weeks of passing through toll gantries, send SANRAL a registered letter, expressing your concern, that for the last 4- 6 weeks you have not received a payment request from them. You must state that you are COMPLETELY willing to pay the toll fees, but this cannot be carried out without a detailed invoice. Unreliable postal services could be to blame, so please would they send you your invoice by registered mail, to ensure you receive it. (This is a fully legal AARTO requirement for any letter of demand.) Make a photocopy of your letter, get a COMMISSIONER OF OATHS to stamp the copy, and keep your registered mail receipt. Such a request could take months to be settled, and if you are fortunate, never at all due to the sheer volume of similar requests received. Should you finally receive a notification that a registered letter has arrived for you, take as long as possible to collect it. This method is based upon the fact that they do not use registered mail to send invoices. If one considers the past history of all traffic fines received, these all arrive by normal mail to prevent the high costs of registering letters.

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Piccky Wockky - October 12, 2013 at 07:04

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2) Should SANRAL surprisingly, after a lengthy period, comply with (1) above, then send them a second CERTIFIED letter by registered post, requesting that they send you a photograph for every single gantry you have passed under for that month, proving that is was your car you that is being invoiced.( Perfectly legal and reasonable request from any motorist ). Such photographs obviously, you must request to also be sent by registered mail to ensure delivery. Also takes weeks to collect such registered mail, should it in the unlikely event, ever be posted. Explain that you have heard that certain motorists are using illegal false number plates and you therefore require the photographs to prove that it is definitely your cat that is being charged. Such a request could takes months to be settled, or if you are very fortunate, never. Consider the sheer volume of requests they should by now have received. If their system is not set up for such requests, which I am almost positive is the case. (Hope I am not wrong on this one) Can you imagine the difficulties and problem they will have, in trying to MANUALLY comply with the thousands upon thousands of similar requests received. To be really difficult, how about querying some of the less clear photographs taken at night. Even if they come back to you asserting that the photographs are in their opinion, all perfectly readable, further delays will have been successfully applied.

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Piccky Wockky - October 12, 2013 at 07:05

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3) Should SANRAL try to speed up communications by requesting your e-mail or fax number, or send you SMS’s, or trying direct contact by phone, I have considered very simple ways of negating each of such requests. I am not mentioning any of these methods, as I want to keep this article 100% above board, and free of any questionable actions.
4) In the unlikely event that all the above somehow be resolved, than obviously pay, but only for that particular month under review.
5) Start the whole lengthy procedure all over again, 4-6 weeks after the termination of the second month’s toll fees due. Continue with the same, for every individual month that follows.

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To the wo/man, vote for a party that is against E-tolls! Repeat and propagate this mantra! (

Johannesburg - Comments by President Jacob Zuma on e-tolls in which he said that "we can't think like Africans" caused outrage on Tuesday.

Zuma commented on Monday at the Gauteng Manifesto Forum at the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg on e-tolls among other matters.

"We can’t think like Africans, in Africa, generally. We are in Johannesburg, this is Johannesburg. It's not some national road in Malawi," Zuma said.

“I don't know what Malawi's roads infrastructure has to do with Gauteng's e-tolls. Zuma needs to chill with the arrogance,” tweeted writer T.O Molefe.

“I'm desperately trying to understand what Zuma meant with his 'African' remarks. I've translated it to Zulu and Xhosa but it sounds even worse!” tweeted Mondli Zondo.

“Jacob Zuma must withdraw his presidency, not just the e-tolls statement. The rot is his whole being not just his thoughts,” said Mindlo Mindlo.

Withdraw remarks - DA

The DA also joined the conversation with the party’s national spokesperson call for the president to withdraw his remarks.

"The president was saying we must welcome e-tolls and pay up because new freeways have been built in Johannesburg. What the president doesn't realise is Africa is actually developing at a faster pace than he suggests," he said.

"Many governments in African countries have adopted investor friendly policies that create jobs. They are not burdening citizens with double-taxation though an expensive e-tolling system."

According to the report, Zuma said the roads would be tolled and workers who could afford and maintain a car would be able to pay e-tolls, and the rest of the people could use public transport.

Maimane said Zuma should withdraw these "insulting remarks" and said people were not backward when they said they could not afford e-tolls.

Tolling system ‘backward and expensive’

He said Zuma's claim that working class people could afford e-tolls was false because people could not afford to pay an extra R400 a month to travel between Soweto and Midrand.

"Instead of insulting South Africans by saying we are backward when we oppose e-tolls, we should get rid of this backward and expensive tolling system," he said.

The Supreme Court of Appeal dismissed an Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) appeal against the implementation of e-tolls by the SA National Roads Agency Limited on 9 October.

On Friday, Outa announced that it would not continue its appeal against the ruling because of a lack of money.

Just read , e tolls starting 3 december

What happens to tolls on rental cars? The airport is very close to many toll roads - Will the rental companies have to bear the cost or are they exempt?

Everybody pays, including rentals and government vehicles, just the f minibus
Taxis and other public transport is exempt

Devices already installed in rental vehicles, this cost will be for the users account

IF you start receiving strange sms that you owe etoll this the reason why
unfortunately in afrikaans, appered in Beeld today

e toll fees

english version from IOL

e toll

some etoll maybe invalid, you might qualify for refund if you did pay

invalid e toll charges

pay my fine website is giving your info to SANRAL

Johannesburg - Users of the PayMyFines website are accusing the website of giving out their personal details to the company managing the e-toll project without their permission.

Justice Project South Africa chairman Howard Dembovsky said people who have registered with the website have started receiving e-toll bills through e-mail, even though they were not registered e-tag users and had never given their e-mail addresses to Sanral.

One account which was sent to a user who owned a fleet of vehicles was for R6656, but provided no pictures or details of e-toll transactions.

The e-mail was sent from etcrecovery.co.za

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hope they dont bring this shit to kzn(td)

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> hope they dont bring this shit to kzn(td)

Us Durbanites can't afford it.lol.

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> Us Durbanites can't afford it.lol.


Well someone has to pay for Zumaville, why not you brothers in KZN....<