Vaal Sand Jottings - Thursday 26/09

Englander Wrote:

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> Thanks 007 and sorry to hear times are a little
> tough (td)
>
> I will repeat though until I am blue in the face
> lol... my skill, if I have any (and most days I
> definiely do not!) is analysing what is in front
> of me and guessing from that info. I have none of
> the racing/horse knowledge that so many on ABC
> possess, I am sometimes in awe at their ability to
> find a winner and the titbits they offer are often
> gold dust to me... I seem to remember in the past
> your words of wisdom and help led me to support a
> horse which duly won who I hsd given no chance to.
> Much of it, imvho, is knowing who to listen to and
> when.
>
> I would like to add one extra comment if I may and
> have a blardy good moan at the new P6 and
> specifically Mr VM. I missed out on the P6
> yesterday with Jumbo and if only for a small cut,
> I had seven horses in that race I think (including
> an Erasmus runner), larger % with less horses, one
> of which was a scratched runner injured in the
> stalls (who would have won easily ). The
> dividend was...
> Tickets = 10.28
> Dividend = R 127018.40
> Now, firstly, well done to anyone who got part of
> it (tu) Personally, I would have been very happy
> with a smaller cut from a smaller dividend. I
> would like the whole lot but I am not (too)
> greedy! lol To get the P6 yesterday in my view was
> not impossible but still needed a fair chunk of
> skill to get it. There were no huge shocks so
> there was an equal playing field, not hugely bias
> towards only those rich enough to do the huge
> permutations. I put in a lot of effort and used
> all my skills to try and get it. My eyes are
> sagging down to my top lip, my mind feels like a
> scrambled egg cooked far too long and I am lucky
> if I get more than 4 hours sleep. So Mr VM you
> imply again that I have to work harder and improve
> my skills and I will come find you and tell you in
> no uncertain terms where you can shove your words
> of wisdom But, I do understand, the well-off
> need to look after their own :S :X

Maybe you and me should put together our thoughts on the P6, I have also a little bit of skills in that,I am not to bad on the pick six
the other day on Turffontein i worked out a perm for R22 and caught the P6 27% it paid out over 10k and I got back R2700 2304549472903 20130907 Turffontein 4P6 5,WT,1,2,3,WT,1,3,6,WT,3,WT,2,4,11,WT,1,3,15,WT, 0+27.16% 2699.70

yesterday I worked out P6 for less than R300 and would have caught it 5 % but no money to play.
.one of my rules that i do not waiver on is when you reach the last leg put in the field, the day Danielle won I did not play but would have had Danelle due to my rule. last year Romeo Francis had a horse Rose for Rossini in the last leg of the P6 at the Vaal and it won at 50/1 and the P6 did not pay muchup to that stage, but with that horse winning it paid R500k , I had it 2%

Yes going through tough times, can not find job and to try something new, takes money BUT have the prospect of a little bit coming in through property deal which I have put together and if everything goes to plan will get the money end of month, will then be punting for a living,

Will be focusing on P^ and lace bets
my planned structure which i am going to use for P6 is 2 x bankers, with a few horses in oer 2 legs and F x F last two legs would be going for 1- 5% P6's
the reason for my thinking is that it seems to me the most upsets comes in the last 2 legs, and you do not want to survive 2 banker and 2 more legs to fall out in the last 2 races.

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> Englander Wrote:
>

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>

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> > Thanks 007 and sorry to hear times are a little
> > tough (td)
> >
> > I will repeat though until I am blue in the
> face
> > lol... my skill, if I have any (and most days I
> > definiely do not!) is analysing what is in
> front
> > of me and guessing from that info. I have none
> of
> > the racing/horse knowledge that so many on ABC
> > possess, I am sometimes in awe at their ability
> to
> > find a winner and the titbits they offer are
> often
> > gold dust to me... I seem to remember in the
> past
> > your words of wisdom and help led me to support
> a
> > horse which duly won who I hsd given no chance
> to.
> > Much of it, imvho, is knowing who to listen to
> and
> > when.
> >
> > I would like to add one extra comment if I may
> and
> > have a blardy good moan at the new P6 and
> > specifically Mr VM. I missed out on the P6
> > yesterday with Jumbo and if only for a small
> cut,
> > I had seven horses in that race I think
> (including
> > an Erasmus runner), larger % with less horses,
> one
> > of which was a scratched runner injured in the
> > stalls (who would have won easily ). The
> > dividend was...
> > Tickets = 10.28
> > Dividend = R 127018.40
> > Now, firstly, well done to anyone who got part
> of
> > it (tu) Personally, I would have been very
> happy
> > with a smaller cut from a smaller dividend. I
> > would like the whole lot but I am not (too)
> > greedy! lol To get the P6 yesterday in my view
> was
> > not impossible but still needed a fair chunk of
> > skill to get it. There were no huge shocks so
> > there was an equal playing field, not hugely
> bias
> > towards only those rich enough to do the huge
> > permutations. I put in a lot of effort and used
> > all my skills to try and get it. My eyes are
> > sagging down to my top lip, my mind feels like
> a
> > scrambled egg cooked far too long and I am
> lucky
> > if I get more than 4 hours sleep. So Mr VM you
> > imply again that I have to work harder and
> improve
> > my skills and I will come find you and tell you
> in
> > no uncertain terms where you can shove your
> words
> > of wisdom But, I do understand, the well-off
> > need to look after their own :S :X
>
> Maybe you and me should put together our thoughts
> on the P6, I have also a little bit of skills in
> that,I am not to bad on the pick six
> the other day on Turffontein i worked out a perm
> for R22 and caught the P6 27% it paid out over 10k
> and I got back R2700
> 2304549472903 20130907 Turffontein 4P6 5,WT,1,2,3,
> WT,1,3,6,WT,3,WT,2,4,11,WT,1,3,15,WT, 0+27.16% 269
> 9.70
>
> yesterday I worked out P6 for less than R300 and
> would have caught it 5 % but no money to play.
> .one of my rules that i do not waiver on is when
> you reach the last leg put in the field, the day
> Danielle won I did not play but would have had
> Danelle due to my rule. last year Romeo Francis
> had a horse Rose for Rossini in the last leg of
> the P6 at the Vaal and it won at 50/1 and the P6
> did not pay muchup to that stage, but with that
> horse winning it paid R500k , I had it 2%
>
> Yes going through tough times, can not find job
> and to try something new, takes money BUT have the
> prospect of a little bit coming in through
> property deal which I have put together and if
> everything goes to plan will get the money end of
> month, will then be punting for a living,
>
> Will be focusing on P^ and lace bets
> my planned structure which i am going to use for
> P6 is 2 x bankers, with a few horses in oer 2
> legs and F x F last two legs would be going for 1-
> 5% P6's
> the reason for my thinking is that it seems to me
> the most upsets comes in the last 2 legs, and you
> do not want to survive 2 banker and 2 more legs to
> fall out in the last 2 races.

James remember what got you into tough times and try to be strong - Punting is not the answer

I have resigned from P6 punting as from today in protest at Mr VM's arrogant words, he can go without my R1 a day

Seriously though 007, I don't really think about the P6, I usually go quite large for a nothing % and then gradually reduce the selections... I often end up doing 6 or 7 bets with % payouts increasing due to reduced number of selections rather than increased stake... is usual for me to go 1%, 5%, 10%, 20%, 50%, 100% but not a bet I particularly enjoy

Thanks Engelsman, some good stuff here. Where do you find the time?

Lucky_Dude Wrote:

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> Thanks Engelsman, some good stuff here. Where do
> you find the time?

Not being clever LD, I simply make the time (but I don't do other work). It is a slog though and takes forever but if each time I have success similar to that of yesterday, its worth it... that's a big IF though