Flamingo Park Mon 16/9/13

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Stop being RUDE.... fannies

I believed Pay Master would need the run from his forced 3 month suspension,but again horses make fools of us
I backed Mountain Rush in a each way Yankee

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> So just to get this right titch they no longer
> share there info for other reasons and not the
> abuse they get about there tipping fyi being
> losing gracefully for many years and I only blame
> myself for wrong choices I assumed paymaster would
> need run bec of long rest had the form which I
> ignored but I assumed cause shams did not mention
> it as one with a chance I chose to ignore it
> ultimately I accept responsibility for ignorance

They (the vissers) no longer share their info becoz they were slated when they got it wrong not only here but by a few of their owners as well, and the "lose gracefully" comment was in reference to jawad's post and not yours...

WISEOWL , only 1 runner at the big hole today -- R 5 - FIRE !!!

take double - win and place with Magner horse in R 9

Swinger - Little swan x Woodland fire x Blushing grey

R5 4-5-11 swinger

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> I believed Pay Master would need the run from his
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> I backed Mountain Rush in a each way Yankee

No need to explain. If racing was so easy we would all be millionaires.
What I don't understand is what ppl mking a fuss abt? The Fav was obviously fancied and got scratched? It don't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the new fav will run a big race now.lol.
Sham racing, ur transparency is much appreciated.

K thank u for clarification titch and to the shams thanks for tranparency as I said I was the fool saw tht it wasa weak race and shud of went with u guys on paymaster after scratching

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Unfair comment, Titch, without looking at it from the other side.

And no disrespect to the Shams.


Horse not striding out. Reason given for very late scratching (under 2 minute before race off).

Jockey had plenty of time riding up to starting stalls to assess wellbeing of the horse, so why wait so close to start time, to declare the scratching.

Here is my gripe.
1). I had already taken all to come win bets, with this horse about 4hours ago, when it was convenient for me to do so. No longer at the bookies, as I have other commitments. Now have to settle for less, due to scratching.
2). Taking bets on my telebet account. 15 minutes before race time, horse is still in the betting, so I take some time to work out trifectas, quartets, exactas and swingers, all of which include the favorite. I then phone my bets through about 2 minutes before race time, only to hear that the 3 has been scratched. Please take note. I am not watching a TV screen to take my bets. I am using my laptop to follow betting changes. Limited time available to restructure my bets, so no bets end up been taken.
3). All those R10 and R20 punters, who stand in a queue, after spending 10 to 15 minutes, figuring out how to effectively spend what they have to make a small profit, and then have to stand in a queue for plus 5 minutes, to get a bet in. What chance do they have of changing their bets, and getting it on, after a late scratching.
4). And I think this is what really riles punters. You want my money to build pools, but yet you do not give me a fair chance to win.
5). Time to share the pie boys, before there is no pie left to be shared.

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> WISEOWL , only 1 runner at the big hole today --
> R 5 - FIRE !!!



When I was doing Andrew's rides Wise Owl and Dave phoned and asked for Andy to ride a horse for them and I was assured that it would not loose, I went for a horse of the late Peter Miller instead and Derrick David took WO's ride, needless to say Andy beat the ambulance a neck and Dereck posed and won by 5 from that day to this I have NEVER left a horse of theirs out in KIM, btw the horse went on to win 4 times out of 5 starts in Kim and we eventually managed to get the ride in his last win (Mint Green)

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> beat the ambulance a neck and Dereck posed and won
> by 5 from that day to this I have NEVER left a
> horse of theirs out in KIM, btw the horse went on
> to win 4 times out of 5 starts in Kim and we
> eventually managed to get the ride in his last win
> (Mint Green)


i know some clanners do send them horses now and then but Davie and Wise Owl deserve to get more quality horses imo...(tu)

swingers 4x6x13...