Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
saldiani Wrote:
> ok, faxx, but who offered after such a trainer
> comments such good prices on betfair (12-1, 3-1
> for place) and quite big amounts?
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> FazzX Wrote:
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> > saldiani Wrote:
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> > > interesting, yesterday everybody shouted
> about
> > > puller, but paul peter with his worse comment
> > is
> > > accepted
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> > Hi Sal
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> > For me it's not the same thing - if a trainer
> > plays down chances of a runner or puts public
> off,
> > but it is then heavily backed and arrives, it
> is
> > not hard to conclude he has misled everyone,
> but
> > if a trainer talks up his horse, it is backed
> and
> > runs no race there can be many explanations
> which
> > have nothing to do with deception. Horses are
> not
> > machines, sometimes they show at home but don't
> > raise a gallop at the track. Trainer has no
> > control over this, trainers also lose money
> > sometimes on punts.
Someone who knows there's another bomb in the field that is really strongly fancied (i.e. even if no great volumes for the eventual winner, the "right money" has come for it, so they are prepared to lay everything else) or someone who never heard trainers comments? Otherwise we have to conclude trainer Peter's gets commissions for making misleading comments, or has shares in a bookmaker?
> ok, faxx, but who offered after such a trainer
> comments such good prices on betfair (12-1, 3-1
> for place) and quite big amounts?
>
> FazzX Wrote:
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> > saldiani Wrote:
> >
>
>
> >
> > > interesting, yesterday everybody shouted
> about
> > > puller, but paul peter with his worse comment
> > is
> > > accepted
> >
> >
> > Hi Sal
> >
> > For me it's not the same thing - if a trainer
> > plays down chances of a runner or puts public
> off,
> > but it is then heavily backed and arrives, it
> is
> > not hard to conclude he has misled everyone,
> but
> > if a trainer talks up his horse, it is backed
> and
> > runs no race there can be many explanations
> which
> > have nothing to do with deception. Horses are
> not
> > machines, sometimes they show at home but don't
> > raise a gallop at the track. Trainer has no
> > control over this, trainers also lose money
> > sometimes on punts.
Someone who knows there's another bomb in the field that is really strongly fancied (i.e. even if no great volumes for the eventual winner, the "right money" has come for it, so they are prepared to lay everything else) or someone who never heard trainers comments? Otherwise we have to conclude trainer Peter's gets commissions for making misleading comments, or has shares in a bookmaker?
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
Malaga belle @ 20/1 good value place bet
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
I hope Pirates wasn't listening to that mug McCurdy talking about Alcanina having a better chance to win than Genuine Leather because it is a "3 time winner against a 1 time winner"

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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
On his best days Lerena always gets first run on the other guys but things are not looking good for him lately ,he needs to get his confidence back ,the Striker incident seem to have dented his talent and tenacity .What you guys think?
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
Don't leave Phenomenal out.looked well as did the favourite
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
Pulse Wrote:
> On his best days Lerena always gets first run on
> the other guys but things are not looking good for
> him lately ,he needs to get his confidence back
> ,the Striker incident seem to have dented his
> talent and tenacity .What you guys think?
Strange Pulse... I was thinking exactly the same thing about Lerena's confidence :S
> On his best days Lerena always gets first run on
> the other guys but things are not looking good for
> him lately ,he needs to get his confidence back
> ,the Striker incident seem to have dented his
> talent and tenacity .What you guys think?
Strange Pulse... I was thinking exactly the same thing about Lerena's confidence :S
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
u get in there Genuine Leather....well done Pirates and everyone else on this one (tu)
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
Rod McCurdy.....I'm not even going to say anything, really beyond belief.
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
wasnt very impressive ..if i owned any horse that was half decent i wouldnt run them on this going ...
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
Can I have your opinions please.
Why do you guys think would they run that horse Zirconia in the 4th race? She was 21 kg's under sufferance with the top weighted horse. Do you think it is because there is just no other races available? She had no chance even for a run.
Nico seemed to think she was pulled out of the race, which may have been the case but I think she probably just ran to her rating?
Let me know what your opinions are please.
Why do you guys think would they run that horse Zirconia in the 4th race? She was 21 kg's under sufferance with the top weighted horse. Do you think it is because there is just no other races available? She had no chance even for a run.
Nico seemed to think she was pulled out of the race, which may have been the case but I think she probably just ran to her rating?
Let me know what your opinions are please.
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Re: Re: Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June
12 years 5 days ago
Phenomenal backed in from forties to 28/1.Places came in from 9 to 5.5.Ran a good race and should win over 1200 soon.
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